How good is Bryce?

[rjhindm]

I suck. However, Cartwright has a chance for a really good season.

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funny thing is....when I first saw this topic I thought they were talking about you, so I never opened it...

 

[tm3308]

I don't know much about McCamey's off court behavior, but his on court play is superior to Cartwright as well. He's a slightly more efficient passer and a far better shooter. We could have used a guard with his range.

I don't know much in the way of specifics, either, but it was always obvious that there was a discord between McCamey and Weber (think KF/DJK on steroids). He just didn't seem to have the intangibles necessary for a PG. Had all the talent in the world, though.

 

[sportstalent]

I don't know much in the way of specifics, either, but it was always obvious that there was a discord between McCamey and Weber (think KF/DJK on steroids). He just didn't seem to have the intangibles necessary for a PG. Had all the talent in the world, though.

I remember when Illinois was playing Michigan in McCamey's Jr year and he and Weber got into a huge argument on the floor during a timeout. This past season the two got into it and Weber benched McCamey, but he came in early, not too much of a lesson.
McCamey did have talent, but as a coach, he would never play for me. Players that think they are bigger than the team don't find their way on my teams, regardless of talent. Chemistry can overcome some lack of talent.
We had a college coach do a camp for us this past summer and he said that there are only two things that he looks for in kids: Attitude and Effort. McCamey lacked on both of those areas, he played when he wanted too and Weber put up with it for whatever reason.

 

[smoot27]

Understand what I am saying, find a more efficient player with a similar record. The numbers can be close to the same as ppg stats, but find an example of a player that was in a comparable situation that has good efficiency.

Your not specific if this pertains specifically to offense as a whole, scoring or passing? And is this limited to pg's or inclusive of all?

If you go by offensive rating you have these from the larger conferences based on my quick search:

Benchmark - Cartwright 92.1

Providence: Marshon Brooks 115.3

Depaul: Brandon Young 94.7

Seton Hall: Jordan Theodore 99.3, Jeremy Hazell 107.6

Rutgers: Mike Coburn 92.4

ASU: Trent Lockett 103

Oregon State: Jared Cunningham 107.8

Stanford: Jeremy Green 107

Auburn: Earnest Ross 102.4

By the way, this metric was created by statistician Dean Oliver, not to be confused with the former Hawk! This stat factors in points, assists and turnovers so it's probably legit to fit this question.

 

[sportstalent]

Your not specific if this pertains specifically to offense as a whole, scoring or passing? And is this limited to pg's or inclusive of all?

If you go by offensive rating you have these from the larger conferences based on my quick search:

Benchmark - Cartwright 92.1

Providence: Marshon Brooks 115.3

Depaul: Brandon Young 94.7

Seton Hall: Jordan Theodore 99.3, Jeremy Hazell 107.6

Rutgers: Mike Coburn 92.4

ASU: Trent Lockett 103

Oregon State: Jared Cunningham 107.8

Stanford: Jeremy Green 107

Auburn: Earnest Ross 102.4

By the way, this metric was created by statistician Dean Oliver, not to be confused with the former Hawk! This stat factors in points, assists and turnovers so it's probably legit to fit this question.

Thanks, now was that so hard?

It would make the most sense to look at PG's since that is the question how Bryce stacks up against other PG's.