Hope Big 10 stays at 12
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hawkeye12345
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No offense, but that's just dumb.
16 teams is logical. You have four - four team divisions. N, S, E, W or anything else that somebody wants to call it. You then have the N vs S and E vs W teams play each team in the conferences (8 teams playing 7 'conference' games) The winner of that conference plays the winner of the other conference for the Big10(16) conference championship.
Next year the divisions play N vs E and S vs W. The following year you have N vs W and S vs E and in the 4th year you are back with N vs S and E vs W.
You schedule 3 or 4 out of conference games per year which gives you 10 or 11 total games played plus two teams play in the conference championship game and more than likely 6 or 7 play in a bowl game.
Two questions need to be answered going forward: 1) What is the target for number of games played during the season and 2) is there going to be a playoff?
16 teams is logical. You have four - four team divisions. N, S, E, W or anything else that somebody wants to call it. You then have the N vs S and E vs W teams play each team in the conferences (8 teams playing 7 'conference' games) The winner of that conference plays the winner of the other conference for the Big10(16) conference championship.
Next year the divisions play N vs E and S vs W. The following year you have N vs W and S vs E and in the 4th year you are back with N vs S and E vs W.
You schedule 3 or 4 out of conference games per year which gives you 10 or 11 total games played plus two teams play in the conference championship game and more than likely 6 or 7 play in a bowl game.
Two questions need to be answered going forward: 1) What is the target for number of games played during the season and 2) is there going to be a playoff?
DexterMorgan
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I hope they stay at 12 as well. If they move to 16 I hope they split into two 8 team divisions instead of four 4 team divisions.
hawkeye12345
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Whose tradition, yours? I can't think of on e conference today that is the same as it was 50 yrs ago. If u can then please name it.
DuffMan
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If the SEC and Pac12 go to 16 the Big10 would not be able to sit with 12 and remain competitive in TV revenue. Realistically we have to expand as well. I hope WV is the next team in because I think Mizzou would be an excellent addition.
I think we are only a few years away from an 8 team NCAA football playoff.
4 automatic qualifiers from the Super 4, and 4 at large births each year that could go to super 4 teams or teams outside the super 4 like Boise, TCU last year, etc.
I think we are only a few years away from an 8 team NCAA football playoff.
4 automatic qualifiers from the Super 4, and 4 at large births each year that could go to super 4 teams or teams outside the super 4 like Boise, TCU last year, etc.
silvanthalas
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DwayneTwill
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That *does* suck.
This is nonsense,as Mark Cuban laid out in his blog.
There are only so many attractive time slots for marquee games that the major networks covet. Why would adding Missouri make CBS willing to pay more to show the Bama-Auburn game? Missouri fans are not automatically going to become rabid SEC fans and follow every game. They have no connection to Bama. And vice versa.
Adding Nebraska to the Big Ten made perfect sense in that they are a national top ten football program all time,and the league needed a 12th to create divisions and reap a windfall with the title game.
Adding a Missouri, adds none of that.
ND is the only addition that makes any sense,and Delany is too smart to dilute the product by moving on any other school until ND is in the bag. And that may never happen.
As Delany has recently said...''quality over quantity'' in other words, he is not going to ask Iowa to receive less revenue from the conference pie just to get Missouri into the league and try to keep up the the ''jones'' in the other leagues. The Big Ten is the king,they do not have to invite just anyone to the party. And for anyone worried about a playoff....quit. No matter how many schools in the Big Ten, nothing happens without them in the fold. There is a reason they have the biggest TV deals, because of more alums than any of the other conferences,by far. Huge schools like OSU,Michigan,Minn,Wis,and Ill. have been pumping out Big Ten faithful alums since 1900. That is a lot of alums with a lot of money.
HawkeyeMike23
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Last year I was all for well thought out 16 team conferences. Now it looks like conferences and teams are scrambling all over, every conference is looking to grab new teams in a sort of free for all, and I can't see this ending well. At some point these thrown together 16 team conferences are going to fall apart, at that time there will be no more reason for Iowa to remain in the B10 than there is for ISU to remain in the B12.
I want the B10 to remain at a stable 12 teams so when these super conferences all fall apart Iowa won't be at risk of landing in an inferior conference.
I want the B10 to remain at a stable 12 teams so when these super conferences all fall apart Iowa won't be at risk of landing in an inferior conference.
Agree. There is a max number of schools in a conference,beyond which it ceases to be a real conference,and more like the NFC/AFC of the NFL.
I think 12 is that number. Now, of course if ND should want in, then an exception will be made.
Does anyone really think that the Big East bb conference has the feel of a true conference? It feels more like the NBA-lite.
When you get to 16 teams, it really becomes two 8-team conferences.
So that really means that Iowa would be losing some conference-mates,in essence, from the old Big Ten or even the newly minted Big Ten.
I am anti-expansion,unless by some slim chance ND wants in.
ICHawk24
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This is untrue. B10 is already the #1 conference in per-school distributions, and is going to break the bank for their network deal which takes effect in 2016.
This is such a silly argument.
It doesn't matter in the least how much each conference makes in TV revenue. What actually matters how much they maker per team. The problem with adding Mizzou is that they lower the B1G's TV revenue per team.
Adding ND, everyone makes more. Adding some reactionary block of 4 schools, everyone makes less.
Dragonhawk
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thevproblem with trying to get ND is that they already are a part of the BE in all other sports, so they would have to leave a pretty nice settup for them, compete in the BB conference and other sports and keep there FB status as well as their own TV coverage so if they go anywhere it will be to the BE
So how do you measure competitiveness? By total TV revenue?
If the Big10 stays at 12 teams, as long as their total TV revenue stays within 25% of the other conferences, then the individual schools will have a better deal than the other conferences.
