Hock and Fant - tight race

[karras]

Hock is great and Fant is horrible

 

[EstronHawkKing]

Just admit that you were more interested in Taylor Swift being interviewed by Robin Roberts instead of the actual draft

 

[karras]

Just admit that you were more interested in Taylor Swift being interviewed by Robin Roberts instead of the actual draft

A year ago that's true. Her recent journey into politics makes her dead to me.

 

[karras]

ESPN's take on the 1st round Hawkeyes.

Hock: 6-5 . . . 251

Pre-Draft Analysis
Hockenson is the rare tight end coming out of college who is a weapon in the passing game and as a blocker. He's a naturally instinctive route runner with an outstanding combination of height, weight, playing speed and strength. He has exceptional ball skills.

Post-Draft Analysis
The Lions came into the draft looking to add weapons for quarterback Matthew Stafford and improve a running game that ranked 23rd in rushing yards per game last year. Adding Hockenson accomplishes both. Look for him to win the starting job early. -- Steve Muench


Fant: 6-4 . . . 249


Pre-Draft Analysis
Fant is essentially a bulked-up slot receiver with the size, speed and athleticism to create mismatches in the passing game. He's fast enough to stretch the field and has the quickness to threaten after the catch. He's a natural hands catcher with above-average body control, but his focus is a bit inconsistent.

Post-Draft Analysis
The Broncos re-signed Jeff Heuerman, but he has had problems staying healthy and hasn't been much of a threat in the passing game. Fant gives offensive coordinator Rich Scangarello and QB Joe Flacco a tight end who can stretch the middle of the field and help draw attention away from the receivers on the outside. -- Steve Muench


They should both have fine NFL careers.
I predicted that Fant skipping the bowl along with the "recommendations" he would be getting from the staff would drop him to the 2nd round. Never been happier to be wrong. It'll always be a mystery why he didn't get a couple hundred snaps at WR.

 

[Tierney]

A year ago that's true. Her recent journey into politics makes her dead to me.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one.

 

[mopkins]

A year ago that's true. Her recent journey into politics makes her dead to me.

I would friendly suggest that just because her politics might not agree with yours doesnt mean you shouldnt respect her right to express her views.

Sorry Im just sick of politics creating a divide amongst our fellow americans. who cares what their beliefs are as long as they are free to express them

 

[lightning1]

I'll be the first to admit that I am shocked. And pleasantly surprised. Every year I see NFL teams draft more athletic players over more complete players. Hopefully it works out for both of them.

 

[ssckelley]

It's a surprise to see 2 tightends drafted in the first round, let a lone 2 from the same school.

 

[Adam]

I would friendly suggest that just because her politics might not agree with yours doesnt mean you shouldnt respect her right to express her views.

Sorry Im just sick of politics creating a divide amongst our fellow americans. who cares what their beliefs are as long as they are free to express them

With the right to express your political views also comes along the right for others to dislike you for them. It's a natural consequence. It's not something a PC warrior can fight.

 

[mopkins]

With the right to express your political views also comes along the right for others to dislike you for them. It's a natural consequence. It's not something a PC warrior can fight.

You're not wrong, but to suddenly not like someone because their political views don't align with yours is pretty retarded.

 

[CP87]

With the right to express your political views also comes along the right for others to dislike you for them. It's a natural consequence. It's not something a PC warrior can fight.

I think the point is it is pretty extreme to dislike someone because they tend towards socialist ideals vs. capitalist ideals. Most of us agree on 95% of the important stuff in life, yet we are often at each other's throats about the 5% we disagree on.

 

[karras]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ootball-kyler-murray-oklahoma-sec/3574651002/


Winners

Oklahoma

This will make a neat recruiting graphic for Lincoln Riley's purposes: For the second year in a row, an Oklahoma quarterback fresh off the Heisman Trophy went first overall. Kyler Murray follows in Baker Mayfield's footsteps as the Cardinals unite Murray's athleticism with one of the sport's most inventive offensive minds in first-year head coach Kliff Kingsbury. Less than four months ago, Kingsbury was the offensive coordinator at Southern California and Murray was set to leave football behind and join the Oakland Athletics.

Apr 25, 2019; Nashville, TN, USA; Kyler Murray (Oklahoma) is selected as the number one overall pick to the Arizona Cardinals in the first round of the 2019 NFL Draft in Downtown Nashville. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports (Photo: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODA)

Murray was the fifth Oklahoma player to go first overall, tying the Sooners with Southern California for the most by any school in draft history. Murray and Mayfield are joined by quarterback Sam Bradford (2010), running back Billy Sims (1980) and defensive lineman Lee Roy Selmon (1976). There's another graphic.

The SEC

The annual tradition of SEC dominance at the NFL draft continued as expected, with three former SEC standouts going among the first seven picks and nine overall going in the first round. The first was Alabama defensive tackle Quinnen Williams, who went third to the New York Jets, followed by LSU linebacker Devin White to Tampa Bay at No. 5 and Josh Allen of Kentucky to the Jaguars at No. 7. Three starters from Mississippi State's top-ranked defense were taken, led by tackle Jeffrey Simmons to the Titans at pick No. 19.

DRAFT TRACKER: Pick-by-pick analysis of every selection in the first round

HISTORY MADE: Kyler Murray selected by Cardinals as NFL draft's No. 1 pick

RAIDERS STUNNER: Oakland unexpectedly takes defensive lineman at No. 4

Clemson

The Tigers' winning streak continues into April. Three former defensive linemen went in the first round: Clelin Ferrell to the Raiders at No. 4, Christian Wilkins to the Dolphins at No. 13 and Dexter Lawrence to the Giants at No. 17. This was the first time in draft history three defensive linemen from the same team were taken in the first round, according to the NFL. (N.C. State in 2006 had two linemen and a third player listed as outside linebacker). Another seven or more Clemson players could go in the next six rounds, including cornerback Trayvon Mullen, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow and offensive tackle Mitch Hyatt.

David Cutcliffe

Cutcliffe's latest quarterback pupil, Daniel Jones, was taken sixth overall by the New York Giants, a surprisingly high slot given Jones' lack of preseason and in-season attention. But it's another feather in the cap for the Duke head coach, who famously tutored both Manning brothers — Peyton as the offensive coordinator at Tennessee, Eli as the head coach at Ole Miss — into No. 1 overall picks.

Iowa

Long a place known for the development of offensive linemen, Iowa is making a very strong case for being the go-to destination for tight ends eyeing the NFL. Not one but two ex-Hawkeyes went in the first round, with T.J. Hockenson going eighth to the Lions and Noah Fant to the Broncos at No. 20. Two players, one position, one school, both in the first round.

 

[SpiderRico]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ootball-kyler-murray-oklahoma-sec/3574651002/


Winners

Oklahoma

This will make a neat recruiting graphic for Lincoln Riley's purposes: For the second year in a row, an Oklahoma quarterback fresh off the Heisman Trophy went first overall. Kyler Murray follows in Baker Mayfield's footsteps as the Cardinals unite Murray's athleticism with one of the sport's most inventive offensive minds in first-year head coach Kliff Kingsbury. Less than four months ago, Kingsbury was the offensive coordinator at Southern California and Murray was set to leave football behind and join the Oakland Athletics.

Apr 25, 2019; Nashville, TN, USA; Kyler Murray (Oklahoma) is selected as the number one overall pick to the Arizona Cardinals in the first round of the 2019 NFL Draft in Downtown Nashville. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports (Photo: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODA)

Murray was the fifth Oklahoma player to go first overall, tying the Sooners with Southern California for the most by any school in draft history. Murray and Mayfield are joined by quarterback Sam Bradford (2010), running back Billy Sims (1980) and defensive lineman Lee Roy Selmon (1976). There's another graphic.

The SEC

The annual tradition of SEC dominance at the NFL draft continued as expected, with three former SEC standouts going among the first seven picks and nine overall going in the first round. The first was Alabama defensive tackle Quinnen Williams, who went third to the New York Jets, followed by LSU linebacker Devin White to Tampa Bay at No. 5 and Josh Allen of Kentucky to the Jaguars at No. 7. Three starters from Mississippi State's top-ranked defense were taken, led by tackle Jeffrey Simmons to the Titans at pick No. 19.

DRAFT TRACKER: Pick-by-pick analysis of every selection in the first round

HISTORY MADE: Kyler Murray selected by Cardinals as NFL draft's No. 1 pick

RAIDERS STUNNER: Oakland unexpectedly takes defensive lineman at No. 4

Clemson

The Tigers' winning streak continues into April. Three former defensive linemen went in the first round: Clelin Ferrell to the Raiders at No. 4, Christian Wilkins to the Dolphins at No. 13 and Dexter Lawrence to the Giants at No. 17. This was the first time in draft history three defensive linemen from the same team were taken in the first round, according to the NFL. (N.C. State in 2006 had two linemen and a third player listed as outside linebacker). Another seven or more Clemson players could go in the next six rounds, including cornerback Trayvon Mullen, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow and offensive tackle Mitch Hyatt.

David Cutcliffe

Cutcliffe's latest quarterback pupil, Daniel Jones, was taken sixth overall by the New York Giants, a surprisingly high slot given Jones' lack of preseason and in-season attention. But it's another feather in the cap for the Duke head coach, who famously tutored both Manning brothers — Peyton as the offensive coordinator at Tennessee, Eli as the head coach at Ole Miss — into No. 1 overall picks.

Iowa

Long a place known for the development of offensive linemen, Iowa is making a very strong case for being the go-to destination for tight ends eyeing the NFL. Not one but two ex-Hawkeyes went in the first round, with T.J. Hockenson going eighth to the Lions and Noah Fant to the Broncos at No. 20. Two players, one position, one school, both in the first round.

Ex-Hawkeyes? Those dudes are Hawkeyes for life!

 

[Adam]

You're not wrong, but to suddenly not like someone because their political views don't align with yours is pretty retarded.

I'm many cases I would agree. There are some political views that are simply incendiary though. It is hard for any and every single human alive to reconcile the reality that someone else could have such a varied perspective from their own.

 

[Adam]

I think the point is it is pretty extreme to dislike someone because they tend towards socialist ideals vs. capitalist ideals. Most of us agree on 95% of the important stuff in life, yet we are often at each other's throats about the 5% we disagree on.

Good observation.

 

[EstronHawkKing]

A year ago that's true. Her recent journey into politics makes her dead to me.

If it makes you feel any better, the candidate she campaigned for lost.

 

[karras]

Good observation.

Oh my, no it's a horrible observation. The idea that people agree on 95% of all things is as dumb as saying "scientists have come to a consensus the earth is turning into Venus".

Science doesn't operate on consensus, nor do 8 billion people agree on 95% of all things. Nor is revulsion for the system which has made us the greatest nation in history a 5% marker.

I'll give you an example of a good observation: "The internet has revealed that intellectual laziness is too common, and common sense is too rare."

 

[karras]

If it makes you feel any better, the candidate she campaigned for lost.

That does make me feel a little better. 2020 is gonna make me feel a lot better.

 

[CP87]

Oh my, no it's a horrible observation. The idea that people agree on 95% of all things is as dumb as saying "scientists have come to a consensus the earth is turning into Venus".

Science doesn't operate on consensus, nor do 8 billion people agree on 95% of all things. Nor is revulsion for the system which has made us the greatest nation in history a 5% marker.

I'll give you an example of a good observation: "The internet has revealed that intellectual laziness is too common, and common sense is too rare."

If politics makes up more than 5% of the "stuff" in your life, I feel sorry for you (unless you are a politician, in which case, carry on).

Some of the 95% we all agree on:

• Family is important
• Friends are important
• We should treat one another with decency
• Education is important
• Health is important
• You shouldn't abuse children
• You shouldn't lie, cheat, and steal (see the decency point above)
• Beth Mowins is the greatest football play-by-play announcer since Cosell
• A person needs a purpose to have meaning in their life

You will find very few people who disagree with any of that. Someone on the left of the aisle might have a very different idea about how some of these things are encouraged/promoted vs. someone on the right of the aisle, but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the end goals for all of us are largely the same.

And if someone does not agree with you, whether because they vote a different party line or cheer for a different University, they do not need to demonized. We're all in this together...except Nebraska fans.

 

[Adam]

Oh my, no it's a horrible observation. The idea that people agree on 95% of all things is as dumb as saying "scientists have come to a consensus the earth is turning into Venus".

Science doesn't operate on consensus, nor do 8 billion people agree on 95% of all things. Nor is revulsion for the system which has made us the greatest nation in history a 5% marker.

I'll give you an example of a good observation: "The internet has revealed that intellectual laziness is too common, and common sense is too rare."

I'm not sure what you're talking about but reality in general is based on a conscious and subconscious collective of agreement on billions of things. Your scope of thought is too narrow. 95% might actually be too low. 99% agreement throughout mankind might be more accurate.