MeatMan
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can you pair this down to 8? cause that would help.
HN basketball player tournament
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can you pair this down to 8? cause that would help.
ColoradoHAWKEYE
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Early guys sharm scheurman and "the stick" vidnovak(sp). And somewhere in the early 80s was Steve Carfino. Kevin boyle was a scrapper in late 70s, and what about the "Vanilla Gorilla", Al Lorenzen?
edit: just players, cause I don't really disagree with the lineups you've got going.
edit: just players, cause I don't really disagree with the lineups you've got going.
jacknicholson
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Olsen: Ronnie Lester, Kevin Boyle, Bobby Hansen, and Mark Gannon.......
Raveling/Davis: Marble, Horton, BJ, Gamble and the Vanilla Gorilla
Alford: Dean Oliver, Jeff Horner, Greg Brunner, Adam Haluska, Recker, Evans and Pierre Pierce.....
Lick/Fran: Eric May, Jake Kelley, Gatens, Devyn, Mel, Zach, Aaron White, Mike Gesell and, of course, Andrew Brommer for The Shot:
Iowa basketball player hits amazing backwards shot - YouTube
Hard for me to pick just one or two and I forgot Sir Jamelot......
Raveling/Davis: Marble, Horton, BJ, Gamble and the Vanilla Gorilla
Alford: Dean Oliver, Jeff Horner, Greg Brunner, Adam Haluska, Recker, Evans and Pierre Pierce.....
Lick/Fran: Eric May, Jake Kelley, Gatens, Devyn, Mel, Zach, Aaron White, Mike Gesell and, of course, Andrew Brommer for The Shot:
Iowa basketball player hits amazing backwards shot - YouTube
Hard for me to pick just one or two and I forgot Sir Jamelot......
ssckelley
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Lester, Carfino, Hansen, Gannon, Boyle, Arnold, Krafcisin, Waite are a good 8
Oops forgot about Brookins and Mayfield.
MeatMan
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after more thought, this is how i would seed the A/L/F bracket. listed are their last year ppg/reb/asst/blks/steals
1 Pierce 17.8/5.2/4.2/0.5/2.5
2 Brunner 14.1/9.2/1.8/0.6/1.0
3 Horner 13.6/4.1/5.6/0.1/1.4
4 Haluska 20.5/4.6/2.6/0.3/1.4
5 Oliver 14.9/2.8/4.8/0.1/1.4
6 Recker 17.1/3.4/2.5/0.4/1.6
7 Evans 15.4/11.1/1.3/0.5/1.6
8 Gatens 15.2/3.6/2.0/0.2/1.1
for the record, i think Dev or Aaron could sneak in here with a full career. also, when looking up the stats, i was surprised with how consistent Horner was over his whole career. also, when looking at the stats, not only was i stupid for leaving Pierce out initially, he's obviously (to me at least) the most talented/best player of the bunch. Not really comfortable with the final number/seed, but very comfortable with who's in there.
1 Pierce 17.8/5.2/4.2/0.5/2.5
2 Brunner 14.1/9.2/1.8/0.6/1.0
3 Horner 13.6/4.1/5.6/0.1/1.4
4 Haluska 20.5/4.6/2.6/0.3/1.4
5 Oliver 14.9/2.8/4.8/0.1/1.4
6 Recker 17.1/3.4/2.5/0.4/1.6
7 Evans 15.4/11.1/1.3/0.5/1.6
8 Gatens 15.2/3.6/2.0/0.2/1.1
for the record, i think Dev or Aaron could sneak in here with a full career. also, when looking up the stats, i was surprised with how consistent Horner was over his whole career. also, when looking at the stats, not only was i stupid for leaving Pierce out initially, he's obviously (to me at least) the most talented/best player of the bunch. Not really comfortable with the final number/seed, but very comfortable with who's in there.
Tmoney12
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Olsen: Ronnie Lester, Kevin Boyle, Bobby Hansen, and Mark Gannon.......
Raveling/Davis: Marble, Horton, BJ, Gamble and the Vanilla Gorilla
Alford: Dean Oliver, Jeff Horner, Greg Brunner, Adam Haluska, Recker, Evans and Pierre Pierce.....
Lick/Fran: Eric May, Jake Kelley, Gatens, Devyn, Mel, Zach, Aaron White, Mike Gesell and, of course, Andrew Brommer for The Shot:
Iowa basketball player hits amazing backwards shot - YouTube
Hard for me to pick just one or two and I forgot Sir Jamelot......
thanks for that Unc. I love Brommer
wundergrape
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Top 8 Pre-Olson players:
1. John Johnson
2. Sam Williams
3. Herb Wilkinson
4. Don Nelson
5. Dick Ives
6. Murray Weir
7. Downtown Freddy Brown
8. Kevin Kunnert
Top 8 Olson/Raveling Players:
1. Ronnie Lester
2. Greg Stokes
3. Bruce Sky King
4. Bob Hansen
5. Kevin Boyle
6. Kenny Arnold
7. Vince Brookins
8. Steve Carfino
1. John Johnson
2. Sam Williams
3. Herb Wilkinson
4. Don Nelson
5. Dick Ives
6. Murray Weir
7. Downtown Freddy Brown
8. Kevin Kunnert
Top 8 Olson/Raveling Players:
1. Ronnie Lester
2. Greg Stokes
3. Bruce Sky King
4. Bob Hansen
5. Kevin Boyle
6. Kenny Arnold
7. Vince Brookins
8. Steve Carfino
MeatMan
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Davis era top 8. listed are the stats from their last year with the Hawks ppg/reb/asst/blk/steals
BJ Armstrong 18.6/2.5/5.4/0.2/1.8 (shot 44% from 3 for his career at Iowa)
Roy Marble 20.5/5.6/2.2/0.1/1.5 (2116 career pts)
Acie Earl 16.9/8.9/1.3/2.5/1.3 (avg 4.0 blk per game his junior year)
Andre Woolridge 20.2/2.7/6.1/0.2/1.4
Ed Horton 18.3/10.6/2.1/0.4/0.9
Brad Lohaus 11.3/7.7/1.8/1.1/0.5
Ryan Bowen 14.4/8.7/1.5/1.3/2.5
Russ Millard 13.7/7.0/0.9/0.8/1.2
not sure who to put in the last spot. here are the ones who i'm debating.
Ricky Davis 15.0/4.8/2.4/0.3/1.2
Les Jepsen 14.9/10.0/1.3/1.1/0.8
Kevin Gamble 11.9/4.5/1.5/0.2/1.1
and then there's Val Barnes, Kenyon Murray and (of course) Kingsbury.
man alive did this list put a ton of guys in the NBA with some really long careers!
BJ Armstrong 18.6/2.5/5.4/0.2/1.8 (shot 44% from 3 for his career at Iowa)
Roy Marble 20.5/5.6/2.2/0.1/1.5 (2116 career pts)
Acie Earl 16.9/8.9/1.3/2.5/1.3 (avg 4.0 blk per game his junior year)
Andre Woolridge 20.2/2.7/6.1/0.2/1.4
Ed Horton 18.3/10.6/2.1/0.4/0.9
Brad Lohaus 11.3/7.7/1.8/1.1/0.5
Ryan Bowen 14.4/8.7/1.5/1.3/2.5
Russ Millard 13.7/7.0/0.9/0.8/1.2
not sure who to put in the last spot. here are the ones who i'm debating.
Ricky Davis 15.0/4.8/2.4/0.3/1.2
Les Jepsen 14.9/10.0/1.3/1.1/0.8
Kevin Gamble 11.9/4.5/1.5/0.2/1.1
and then there's Val Barnes, Kenyon Murray and (of course) Kingsbury.
man alive did this list put a ton of guys in the NBA with some really long careers!
MeatMan
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will take your word for it, but i thought i always heard that Freddy Brown was one of the greatest, and you have him 7th?
wundergrape
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He was one of the best ever. But to demonstrate just how good we used to be, every player ahead of him was either Big Ten Player of the Year (Williams, Weir), or were All-Americans twice (Johnson, Nelson) or three times (Wilkinson and Ives). Really, as far as the top 15 players of the pre-Olson years are concerned, you can pick and choose. Just littered with all-time greats.
Tmoney12
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Great catch.. I was about to get banned for going off on you for getting him so I appreciate you noticing you're mistake
MeatMan
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Great catch.. I was about to get banned for going off on you for getting him so I appreciate you noticing you're mistake
initially i was saving him, but then i got carried away looking at all these stats and then i totally forgot. when i looked back over the list i was like "where the hell is street at". doh!
Tmoney12
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Davis had a lot of good players.... stop blaming stats on you;re omission.
That being said Street as an 8 is like Hampton #15 against ISU.... UPPPPSSSSSEEEEEETTTTT
MeatMan
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Davis had a lot of good players.... stop blaming stats on you;re omission.
#15 against ISU.... UPPPPSSSSSEEEEEETTTTT
Street is an all time fav for many for many reasons, but he isn't close to the player Marble or BJ was. maybe if he would have gotten through his senior season.
