RenoHightower
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LOL, it is HILARIOUS that people actually have a problem with this.As Kirk would say, "Give me a *bleepiin* break."
Here is video of Ferentz's comments to AP reporter after the pressers
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cyclonejen
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Oh, I just like to mix it up with you guys. I was trying to be nice. And I think that defending Kirk's little hissy fit today is kind of crazy.
Relax....it's all almost over for this year. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if you guys managed to win 1 or 2 more games. That might put you back in line for the Insight Bowl (or whatever it is called now) again. Michigan hasn't beat Iowa in 4 years. It's always darkest before dawn and all of that...
Ferentz has a right to be ticked off about a left-field question that has nothing at all to do with his coaching or production on the field. It was a poorly asked/worded question. I was ready to lynch Ferentz for it (frankly my patience is dwindling for him) but his reaction seemed reasonable. The one thing that was quite telling was his last comment to the reporter "you're gonna sit in here every f*cking week? Please. Please." I guess that could be taken in two ways. One, it wasn't a fair question because KF has nothing to do with hiring/firing of this person. Or two, you could take it the Godfather way - I bring you into my house and you disrespect me?? Maybe the dude had better watch out!
iahawks912
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HA You really wana have this conversation about quality bowl games? When Iowa goes to the Insight bowl it sucks.Oh, I just like to mix it up with you guys. I was trying to be nice. And I think that defending Kirk's little hissy fit today is kind of crazy.
Relax....it's all almost over for this year. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if you guys managed to win 1 or 2 more games. That might put you back in line for the Insight Bowl (or whatever it is called now) again. Michigan hasn't beat Iowa in 4 years. It's always darkest before dawn and all of that...
When or if the clowns get to or even close to the Insight Bowl it is one hell of year in lames... Sad truth
HawkfaninWA
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Many posters on here and other Hawk boards have been asking for reporters to ask tougher questions. It think this is one of them, regardless of "what the source was". Big deal. And KF gets all ticked off? Pretty pathetic and I think it shows how he's on the defensive. Bad news for the program and it just adds to the Titanic feeling going on.
Hawkers86
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I would like this post twice if I could.
Everything about Kurt has become do as I say not as I do. His son working for the program the way he is as an example. He has done a lot of good for our program and state but hes starting to seem entitled almost Steve Alford like.
smhawk
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After the Penn State happenings you can't just expect to sweep this under the rug. Obviously not near the extent of the crimes in the allegations however still needs to be taken serious. This guy was an adviser for the athletic department. Ferentz has a responsibility to look out for his players. I would think that if anything happen between Gray and a football player that it's not crazy to assume he'd let his coach know. Therefore is a reasonable question to ask Ferentz and expect him to take it serious.
CFHawk
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Oh, I just like to mix it up with you guys. I was trying to be nice. And I think that defending Kirk's little hissy fit today is kind of crazy.
Relax....it's all almost over for this year. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if you guys managed to win 1 or 2 more games. That might put you back in line for the Insight Bowl (or whatever it is called now) again. Michigan hasn't beat Iowa in 4 years. It's always darkest before dawn and all of that...
I, for one, enjoy polite input from outside the Hawk fanbase.
kmajhawk
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Ferentz comes across as a tad thin in the skin in that clip. He should have simply answered the question.
I'm disappointed the reporter apologized. He had no reason to.
kmajhawk
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Brian Ferentz's appointment is another thing. Has anyone in the Iowa media really looked into the whole situation involving Greg Davis and whether he is just a temporary place-holder for a year or two for Brian? What are their contracts? Were proper hiring practices followed? Anywhere else in the country Kirk Ferentz would be getting skewered for the types of seasons his teams have had the past four years, Ferentz's dealing with the media and some of the off-field issues that have come up. Apparently all is just fine in Fort Pleasantville, at least as far as the Iowa media are concerned.
Until it starts asking tough questions, the Iowa fan base is getting what it deserves.
eveningnewsteam
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I think he said **** too. Excuse me while I call CNN
tm3308
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The thing people are losing sight of is that the question had nothing to do with whether or not Gray did anything with football players or if Ferentz had any kind of knowledge of it. All the reporter wanted to know was if Ferentz told players to cut off contact with Gray after his resignation. That's not a critical detail that tells people anything about the case, or sheds light on it in any significant way. It's just an extra detail that's really not all that important.
Which is why I think Ferentz was more ****** off about the "It's out there" bit. He's got no reason to be upset about what the reporter was looking for.
clicheusername3
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Awesome, JVB to throw for 9 TD's this week, then.
Understand.......but I have a feeling someone's sale's shoes were on when they walked into the station carrying this story with them. Weren't they also the only one to get it all on film after the formal conference session ended? I think they got all excited about how they may have the inside track and forgot about the level of substance attached to it.
Anyway, enough about someone's lack of judgement in making it a headline event versus a segment of their sports for the day. Like The Eagles said "give'm dirty laundry".
FreedComanche
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Exactly. As I've said before, Rob Howe is the only one of em all that is not afraid of cry baby ferentz.
FreedComanche
FreedComanche
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Anyway, enough about someone's lack of judgement in making it a headline event versus a segment of their sports for the day. Like The Eagles said "give'm dirty laundry"
That was Don Henly solo. Killer song and guitar solo.
FreedComanche
DodgerHawki
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I think you are correct Jon...
in viewing that, I think KF was upset with the "it's out there" lead-in. It's as if the reporter wants to distance himself from the question by adding in that qualifier. Either ask the question or don't ask it, you don't need to throw in the nebulous "it's out there."
Except I don't think it had anything to do with Gray at all
I took it as more of a man sort of being ticked that another man didn't have the stones to just come out and ask him the question, rather introducing it by saying it was 'out there' which sort of shifts the reason for asking it because of what someone else had said, and then not even saying where you heard it from.
in viewing that, I think KF was upset with the "it's out there" lead-in. It's as if the reporter wants to distance himself from the question by adding in that qualifier. Either ask the question or don't ask it, you don't need to throw in the nebulous "it's out there."
tubahawk
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Re: I think you are correct Jon...
Except the reporter isn't making the allegation, he's asking for a comment about an allegation that was made.
Should he have named the source rather than say "It's out there"? Sure. But from this point forward the expectation should be every reporter name their "source of information" before posing the question.
Except the reporter isn't making the allegation, he's asking for a comment about an allegation that was made.
Should he have named the source rather than say "It's out there"? Sure. But from this point forward the expectation should be every reporter name their "source of information" before posing the question.
tm3308
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Re: I think you are correct Jon...
If you're talking about an actual source, you only conceal them when they aren't willing to go on the record. But his source was another media outlet, so there's no reason for anonymity (or for any expectation to reveal all sources in the future).
With the "It's out there," it could just as easily just be some Joe Schmo saying that's what he's hearing. Which is the point Ferentz made after it was over with the guy in the stands reference. Everything's "out there" somewhere. The question just came off a little like it was a message board rumor. I don't believe for a second that was his intent, but it's easy to see how it can sound like it. And I'd bet that's why he apologized for the way he worded it.
If you're talking about an actual source, you only conceal them when they aren't willing to go on the record. But his source was another media outlet, so there's no reason for anonymity (or for any expectation to reveal all sources in the future).
With the "It's out there," it could just as easily just be some Joe Schmo saying that's what he's hearing. Which is the point Ferentz made after it was over with the guy in the stands reference. Everything's "out there" somewhere. The question just came off a little like it was a message board rumor. I don't believe for a second that was his intent, but it's easy to see how it can sound like it. And I'd bet that's why he apologized for the way he worded it.
