HP40, I understand what you're trying to say, Fry's influence has been felt for many years and probably many more to come, which is why Iowa football was fun and exciting to watch during his tenure....you never knew what to expect, and his teams were full of surprises, great coaching staff....In a way this is better to talk about than 3/4's of the threads....however, I just wish KF would've kept a little of Fry's bag of tricks handy.....that would make watching Iowa now a little more exciting....I love the logo, I love the Swarm, and I love the kids who sacrifice practices, and games on Saturday, it's just KF I can't figure out, and as a Fry disciple, it's even more mind boggling....Oh well, on to Illinois and hope and pray that a little of Fry comes out next Saturday....