HaydenHawk56
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I'm not complaining. This thread is looking at the play selection. I would have changed only 3 play calls out of that selection. I don't have a problem with everything else. Our Defense was the main problem with OSU.
Hawks ran well to start 2nd half against OSU - went away from it again
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I'm not complaining. This thread is looking at the play selection. I would have changed only 3 play calls out of that selection. I don't have a problem with everything else. Our Defense was the main problem with OSU.
Honestly, I was pretty happy with the way that GD called the game and thought that Ruddock did a very nice job of calling audibles.
I can only remember 1 play if the first 1st half that I wish Ruddock would have picked a different play.
It seemed like he stopped calling audibles in the 2nd half though. There were 3 or 4 plays that he should have called an audible, but didn't (at least, not that I could tell). I don't know if it was a matter of simply not getting enough plays in the 2nd half to get into a rhythm, the plays were coming in too late to audible (there were several that came in late), he was told to cut down on the audibles (it looked like he called a LOT in the 1st half, but I think he did a great job and I hope the coaches wouldn't tell him to stop), or what.
The interception was a matter of mis-communication. It sure looked to me like Jake made the right throw to the right place. I'm not sure what Powell saw to make him turn the way he did - I'm guessing he didn't see the safety.
I can only remember 1 play if the first 1st half that I wish Ruddock would have picked a different play.
It seemed like he stopped calling audibles in the 2nd half though. There were 3 or 4 plays that he should have called an audible, but didn't (at least, not that I could tell). I don't know if it was a matter of simply not getting enough plays in the 2nd half to get into a rhythm, the plays were coming in too late to audible (there were several that came in late), he was told to cut down on the audibles (it looked like he called a LOT in the 1st half, but I think he did a great job and I hope the coaches wouldn't tell him to stop), or what.
The interception was a matter of mis-communication. It sure looked to me like Jake made the right throw to the right place. I'm not sure what Powell saw to make him turn the way he did - I'm guessing he didn't see the safety.
MiniMoeHawk
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Especially the delay TE routes or the PA roll out passes. They were money in the first half
MiniMoeHawk
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How can you possible know when Jake audibled out of a play? He could have been doing all sorts of stuff verbally and non-verbally before running the same play. Have you ever watch Peyton Manning play?
Eda
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If course if you don't get a gain you set up a third and long. Not a good spot for the hawks against OSU.
And I will add the first one you bolded, was a bad toss by Ruddock. The second bolded was a catchable ball that Dusey dropped; however he very next play was a 22 yd gain.
Scrutinizing the play calling last wkend is a waste. The coaches did a great job with the game plan and play calls.
eveningnewsteam
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This thread should be about Phil Parker, not the offense.
It actually about the 'astute' analytical abilities of some of our fellow posters
Is this a serious question? If so, I can explain when I get home from work and have a bit more time. I can't imagine what sort of "stuff" you think the QB is doing up there but it pretty much boils down to identifying the defense and making audibles on the play, routes, and/or protection.
What is it that you think Peyton Manning is doing?
blackngold515
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As a Hawk fan, you should be used to the "if something works...try something else" kind of play calling. After Saturday's game I was more concerned of the lack of adjustments the D and PP failed to make to stop OSU. I guess its not like they had a whole 2 weeks to prepare for OSU.... *crickets* ..... But I do hope they incorp the 3 te in the offense more and let Weisman run more too.
hawkfan2679
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Do you remember when the sideline reporter said that coming out of the locker room, Meyer told his guys that when we audibled out of something, they needed to audible out of what they were doing as well? Well, if OSU does that a couple times and Jake sees it, he can come to the line, get a look he doesn't like, call a dummy audible (one that means nothing, similar to what Peyton will do when he wants defenses to THINK he's audibling) to try to get OSU to shift, and then run the play originally called.
At least I'm assuming that's what the poster you quoted was saying...
I already mentioned a variety of various defensive adjustments we could have shown out of our base defense.
I have made two simple posts about the offense, which overall played really well, but in the second half we didnt use as much TE and 3TE sets and we didnt keep running the ball.
When your first 3 runs of the second half net about 24 yards I think you are goofy to give up on it because you only gain 1 yard running on first down.
We were in some very manageable 2nd and 3rd downs in the first half.
ICHawk24
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We did not give up on the run. Out of every single play we ran in the second half, there were two that you suggested could have been runs. TWO!!! WTF.
AreWeThereYet
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That ten yard holding penalty to start out the second drive was a real killer. Forces Iowa into an obvious passing situation on first and 20. After three and out OSU puts together its second drive for the go-ahead.
tm3308
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Regardless, we're talking about one or two plays that you have a bone to pick with. From the ENTIRE second half.
As others have said, the second half was all about OSU dominating the ball.
The Hawks were running the ball fine until they went to tOSU's strength and tried running outside far too much. There just isn't enough speed for that, and tbh it was unacceptable to keep trying.. especially when running between the tackles was working.
I'm not sure here either, but was there a single play action pass in the 2nd half? They also went away from the 3 TE / power game a lot in the 2nd half.
I'm not sure here either, but was there a single play action pass in the 2nd half? They also went away from the 3 TE / power game a lot in the 2nd half.
hawkfan340
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Lot of WRs targeted in the second half. More straight drops instead of PA too.
But yes, we're picking nits if we're complaining about the offense.
But yes, we're picking nits if we're complaining about the offense.
Bigtenchamp
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at your last bold line we were down by 10 pts with 5 min left... wasn't any time left
people just don't pay attention to the obvious sometimes.
We didn't run because we never had the ball and fell behind.
tm3308
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Maybe I'm just forgetting something, but the holding penalty on the second possession of the second half came exactly 1 play before Duzey's touchdown.
