Hawks in position to finish 6th by themselves

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uihawk82

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After today's big win and looking at the schedules of Minny, Illini, Boilers and Hawks, I think the hawks have a good chance and are in control of finishing 6th in B1G all alone. The hawks and minny and Illini are all tied with 7 in the loss column which is the only important factor right now.

I am not trying to get ahead of the next game but I see the hawks going 4-1 to end the reg season. The lone loss to IU would give Iowa a win over Illini and Purdue. I see Minny and Illini losing at least two if not three more games each and if hawks go 4-1 and finishes 10-8 then they will be 6th by themselves.

Anybody else see this happening? If it happens I cant believe they dont go to the big dance.
 
uihawk82 said:
After today's big win and looking at the schedules of Minny, Illini, Boilers and Hawks, I think the hawks have a good chance and are in control of finishing 6th in B1G all alone. The hawks and minny and Illini are all tied with 7 in the loss column which is the only important factor right now.

I am not trying to get ahead of the next game but I see the hawks going 4-1 to end the reg season. The lone loss to IU would give Iowa a win over Illini and Purdue. I see Minny and Illini losing at least two if not three more games each and if hawks go 4-1 and finishes 10-8 then they will be 6th by themselves.

Anybody else see this happening? If it happens I cant believe they dont go to the big dance.
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If this happens I still think it is likely one of these teams needs to get through the second round of the BTT to go to the dance.

College Basketball is all over the place this year. Accordingly, I think the committee is going to feel more comfortable spreading things out. It clearly is there for the B10 to send 6, or even possibly 7 teams if something remarkable happens. But, I could just as easily see Iowa, Minny, and Illinois end up at 21 or fewer wins and get left out.

This was a necessary game for Iowa to keep their hopes firmly alive. Illinois will be another.

Nebby twice and Purdue go without saying. Lose those games and you have no business talking dance.

Illinois and Minny both have one more chance than Iowa at a big late season win. However, that also means they have a better chance at one more late season loss.
 
Does anyone actually believe the committee would leave out a 10-8 team in this conference? The B1G is going to get a minimum of 7 teams in this year.
 
Illinois is playing very well right now. People keep assuming that is a win cause Illinois went through a rough patch losing 6 of 7. But they've won 3 straight including a win over Indiana. They will not be easy to beat. At all.
 
I agree, Illinois scares me right now. However if they play like they did today, they will beat them.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
I would be shocked if that happened.
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Be prepared to be shocked without some more big wins. Nice, but not enough. 7 wins and 1 loss to NW, NE, PSU and PU doesn't count for a whole lot.


They are still 2-5 against 1 through 6 and 0-4 against 1-4. If they lose IL and IND and lose a 2nd round tourney game they will be 2 - 8 against the top 6. They need 2 more big wins to get it done for sure. Too many other teams to leap frog. ISU isn't going to hold up and their road record is abysmal. The weak non conference schedule can't be hidden.

This was a great win. A season it does not make.
 
uihawk82 said:
After today's big win and looking at the schedules of Minny, Illini, Boilers and Hawks, I think the hawks have a good chance and are in control of finishing 6th in B1G all alone. The hawks and minny and Illini are all tied with 7 in the loss column which is the only important factor right now.

I am not trying to get ahead of the next game but I see the hawks going 4-1 to end the reg season. The lone loss to IU would give Iowa a win over Illini and Purdue. I see Minny and Illini losing at least two if not three more games each and if hawks go 4-1 and finishes 10-8 then they will be 6th by themselves.

Anybody else see this happening? If it happens I cant believe they dont go to the big dance.
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Don't count out Ohio State as choking away their season either. They are lost right now and don't have an easy game left on the schedule. 5th place is available.
 
Illinois 6-7 to 8-8 with 2 toss-ups to end season (10-8, 9-9, or 8-10)
PSU 2/21 W
@mich 2/24 L - has Mich packed it in waiting for BTT? The PSU game may indicate that.
NEB 3/2 W
@ Iowa 3/5 TU - play three well, Illannoy lives/dies by three
@ OSU 3/10 TU -

Minnesota 6-7 to 8-8 with two toss-ups
@osu 2/20 L
Ind 2/26 TU -anything can happen in the barn.
losses to OSU and IND puts them at 6-9. They may become disinterested on the road.
PSU 3/2 W
@Neb 3/6 TU - Nebby plays ugly at home; Minny can play ugly too. Winning ugly on road isn't easy to do.
@Pur 3/9 W

IOWA 6-7 9-8 with one toss-up (10-8 or 9-9)
@NEB 2/21 W - @cornholetown isn't easy but it is a must-win. this team never quits - they earn a W.
PUR 2/27 W

@ ind 3/2 L
although 8-7 going into this game could give the Hawks boo-koo confidence...and maybe awaken the Hoosier giants.
I like playing David.

Look at Hosers stretch schedule:
@MSU
@Minn
Iowa
OSU
@Mich

two rough-and-tough road games, then Iowa at home, followed by OSU and Mich. Maybe I'm stretching, but I like the spot.

ILL 3/5 TU - must win, of course. not as scared of Illannoy as some seem to be.
NEB 3/9 W

Iowa can finish 6th. Facing a depleted NW as the 11th seed. I'd take it. Can Connie can climb to #3 (yep, they should finish 4-1 and 13-5 overall)...Hawks match up well against them.
 
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greghammel said:
Don't count out Ohio State as choking away their season either. They are lost right now and don't have an easy game left on the schedule. 5th place is available.
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Iowa would have to go 5-0 to have a good chance at 5th. OSU has MIN, MSU, @NW, @IND, and ILL. NW is a win. A second W makes it difficult for the 6-7 teams to catch them. They own tie-breaker vs. Iowa. The rest are tough games, however, most are at home. Looks like 2-3 is a real possibility (10-8) so 5th is available, but a lot of stuff has to fall in place for any of the 6-7 teams.
 
Illinois - Beating Indiana was a great win but some of that was a Michigan hangover and where was Zeller at the end of the game to prevent the layup? Minnesota probably would have beat them if one of their best players hadn't been on the bench injured. NW just doesn't have anyone left to put up a fight unless they are blazing from 3. I think Illinois appears to be playing well but I saw all 3 of those games and I honestly don't think they're playing especially well...not as well as us IMO.

Iowa should have a substantial advantage inside. We will be at home and the crowd should be into it. The good thing about Illinois is they can be up 11 and down 4 minutes later because they launched a half dozen 3s with 25 seconds on the shot clock. The bad thing about Illinois is they can be down 11 and turn a couple of missed baskets and a turnover into a quick 12 points on 4 possessions.

1hawkeye1 said:
Illinois is playing very well right now. People keep assuming that is a win cause Illinois went through a rough patch losing 6 of 7. But they've won 3 straight including a win over Indiana. They will not be easy to beat. At all.
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1hawkeye1 said:
Illinois is playing very well right now. People keep assuming that is a win cause Illinois went through a rough patch losing 6 of 7. But they've won 3 straight including a win over Indiana. They will not be easy to beat. At all.
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If they can win at Gonzaga, they can win in Iowa City.
 
This is my projection.

Illinois 8-10...loses all 3 road games
Minnesota 9-9...loses the next 2 and then wins out
Iowa 10-8...lose at Indiana

I have Nebraska as the 11 seed. They are 1 game behind NW and I don't see any wins left on their schedule. NW has a chance at home against PSU but I think that's 50-50 based on how their respective rosters are looking and playing right now.

DDThompson said:
Illinois 6-7 to 8-8 with 2 toss-ups to end season (10-8, 9-9, or 8-10)
PSU 2/21 W
@mich 2/24 L - has Mich packed it in waiting for BTT? The PSU game may indicate that.
NEB 3/2 W
@ Iowa 3/5 TU - play three well, Illannoy lives/dies by three
@ OSU 3/10 TU -

Minnesota 6-7 to 8-8 with two toss-ups
@osu 2/20 L
Ind 2/26 TU -anything can happen in the barn.
losses to OSU and IND puts them at 6-9. They may become disinterested on the road.
PSU 3/2 W
@Neb 3/6 TU - Nebby plays ugly at home; Minny can play ugly too. Winning ugly on road isn't easy to do.
@Pur 3/9 W

IOWA 6-7 9-8 with one toss-up (10-8 or 9-9)
@NEB 2/21 W - @cornholetown isn't easy but it is a must-win. this team never quits - they earn a W.
PUR 2/27 W

@ ind 3/2 L
although 8-7 going into this game could give the Hawks boo-koo confidence...and maybe awaken the Hoosier giants.
I like playing David.

Look at Hosers stretch schedule:
@MSU
@Minn
Iowa
OSU
@Mich

two rough-and-tough road games, then Iowa at home, followed by OSU and Mich. Maybe I'm stretching, but I like the spot.

ILL 3/5 TU - must win, of course. not as scared of Illannoy as some seem to be.
NEB 3/9 W

Iowa can finish 6th. Facing a depleted NW as the 11th seed. I'd take it. Can Connie can climb to #3 (yep, they should finish 4-1 and 13-5 overall)...Hawks match up well against them.
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A win over Illinois can be easy. There's been no middle ground with them. They're either on, in which case they can beat just about anyone in the nation; or they're off, in which case they typically look pretty pathetic.
 
The Hawk's traded a weak OOC for the need to win at the end if the season, which I agree with as the young team needed to build confidence.

I think it is funny that people are now looking at late season must-win games and gripping. Sorry, but they have a way better chance to win these types of games now than early in the season.
 
Whatever seed gives us a potential match-up with Wisconsin in the 2nd round, that's what seed I want. I feel MUCH better about our chances beating the Badgers than Michigan, MSU, OSU, or Indiana.
 
What I'm interested in is watching Groce against Fran.....tempers will be extremely hot for this game....should be quite entertaining.....Groce is a jack wagon anyway, so hopefully FM doesn't follow suit.....I've noticed lately the Iowa kids settling everything on the court (especially after FM chews a$$).....can't wait for this game...
 
CAARHawk said:
If this happens I still think it is likely one of these teams needs to get through the second round of the BTT to go to the dance.

College Basketball is all over the place this year. Accordingly, I think the committee is going to feel more comfortable spreading things out. It clearly is there for the B10 to send 6, or even possibly 7 teams if something remarkable happens. But, I could just as easily see Iowa, Minny, and Illinois end up at 21 or fewer wins and get left out.

This was a necessary game for Iowa to keep their hopes firmly alive. Illinois will be another.

Nebby twice and Purdue go without saying. Lose those games and you have no business talking dance.

Illinois and Minny both have one more chance than Iowa at a big late season win. However, that also means they have a better chance at one more late season loss.
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The B10 will get 7 for sure and possibly 8. Minnesota and Illinois both are rated very high in the computer polls, plus Illinois has some of the best wins of any team in the country. They are about a lock at this point if they just beat Penn St and Nebraska.
 
herkyattack said:
Whatever seed gives us a potential match-up with Wisconsin in the 2nd round, that's what seed I want. I feel MUCH better about our chances beating the Badgers than Michigan, MSU, OSU, or Indiana.
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I think we would have a great shot at OSU too. I'd just like to avoid Indiana and Michigan.
 
NEIChawk said:
What I'm interested in is watching Groce against Fran.....tempers will be extremely hot for this game....should be quite entertaining.....Groce is a jack wagon anyway, so hopefully FM doesn't follow suit.....I've noticed lately the Iowa kids settling everything on the court (especially after FM chews a$$).....can't wait for this game...
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Where have you been watching Groce?
 
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