Hawks Get Publicity...For Jewel's Hit

[HawkGold]

http://www.businessinsider.com/iowa-josey-jewell-ejected-miami-ohio-2016-9

Don't think the title is right. Maybe one of scariest results, but the actual hit...no..

 

[NEIChawk]

"One of the scariest hits"....really? Jack Tatum disagrees.....

 

[mrolympia]

the guy stumbled at the last second. Jewel was already in his blocking motion, not sure what else he could have done to stop himself at that point. Regardless it was helmet to helmet but it wasn't targeting. The makeup call later in the half proved that.

 

[tksirius]

the guy stumbled at the last second. Jewel was already in his blocking motion, not sure what else he could have done to stop himself at that point. Regardless it was helmet to helmet but it wasn't targeting. The makeup call later in the half proved that.

I think that was more of a makeup call for them missing the facemask and hit out of bounds earlier.

 

[ShemHawk]

Ok, raise your hand if you think this title and article would be worded the same if JJ played for OSU or Mich or the SEC.

https://screengrabber.deadspin.com/iowa-player-ejected-after-nearly-decapitating-opponent-1786150426

Decapitated? Oatmeal?

 

[ShemHawk]

An example comparison...wait, no there's no comparison between these two.

LSU lineman ejected for cheap shot after Wisconsin player’s game-winning pick

Iowa Linebacker Josey Jewell Ejected For Brutal Targeting

 

[hwk23]

Even though that was a pretty brutal hit, worse than I originally thought, I'm not sure it was targeting. This was not a defenseless player so that part of the rule, the more strict part, does not apply. So the question is did he target and initiate contact with the crown of his helmet? Target defined as —to take aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with an apparent intent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. To me it looks like Jewell intended to hit the guy with his shoulder by the way his shoulder wiffs after the hit. I understand though why they called it, just due to the sheer brutality of the impact.

 

[ForeverHawk]

At least the article had the following disclaimer:

WARNING: This video may be considered disturbing by some viewers.

Goodness, it's football, a contact sport. People get hit. Yes, it was helmet to helmet, not intentional, nothing you can do about the ejection. Sometimes it is impossible to hold up in that situation and not go helmet to helmet. That's the unfortunate part of that rule.

 

[SweatHawk]

Since the play was a punt return/change of possession, a player cannot block below the waist, have to stay high. Add that to the MIami player stumbling at last second, and have unfortunate hit. Targeting it was not and Jewell should not have been tossed IMO.

 

[ClintonIAfan]

It was a terrible call. The Miami player stumbled into the outlaw.

 

[IAHawkFan]

No doubt that it was helmet to helmet. Don't think that it was intentional, the Miami player was stumbling, but JJ put his head down and the hit looked bad. I really don't see that as targeting, though...

 

[Mademyaccount4u]

It was a very scary hit. You could add any superlative to this, regardless, it was bad. I don't think it was on purpose, but a car "accident" is every bit as gruesome/brutal/vicious despite the intent of the drivers.

I don't think Iowa teaches to do this, nor do I believe they teach their players to poke eyes. Unless the articles say otherwise, well, we just need to move on. People make mistakes. Safety is the concern.

 

[CP87]

Even though that was a pretty brutal hit, worse than I originally thought, I'm not sure it was targeting. This was not a defenseless player so that part of the rule, the more strict part, does not apply. So the question is did he target and initiate contact with the crown of his helmet? Target defined as —to take aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with an apparent intent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. To me it looks like Jewell intended to hit the guy with his shoulder by the way his shoulder wiffs after the hit. I understand though why they called it, just due to the sheer brutality of the impact.

They made a change a year or two ago to include defenders who do not see a blocker coming as "defenseless." I guess guys are just going to have to get used to trying to get in the defenders way, as opposed to trying to de-cleat them in that situation.

 

[hawkjunkie]

the guy stumbled at the last second. Jewel was already in his blocking motion, not sure what else he could have done to stop himself at that point. Regardless it was helmet to helmet but it wasn't targeting. The makeup call later in the half proved that.

I didn't notice the stumbling. Could this help his suspension be overturned? That is if I understand it right and he is out for the first half of next week's game....

I am guessing they won't overturn it. Not with this much media coverage..... And the coaches will use it in the tape room. There was plenty of area for Jewel to have a much lower hit. And still crush the guy.

It was a brutal hit, considering that type of impact is exact what they are trying to avoid. As those impacts can cause CTE. While I agree it is football, these hits need to go at all costs(however you can minimize them?). Two Hawkeyes have killed themselves in the last year because of CTE. Sad, scary stuff. But that's football.

 

[PCHawk]

Man that kids head moved like a rag doll. I knew it was bad but was surprised by the title until I watched the video. Also Jewell is done with his suspension so there is nothing to over rule.

 

[DDThompson]

What could Jewel do different?

Keep the top of his hat up.
Use arms/shoulders to bring the pain.
Use his body to get in the way.

In real time I thought he broke the guy's neck.

Did the Miami start to stumble? Yeah. By that time Jewel has started lowering his hat.

I thought it was a decent call. "Targeting" calls are betting more loose from the letter but I am okay with that. These guys have all gotten bigger, faster, stonger. Heads have not.

So if the outcome is to improve proper blocking and tackling techniques (like on one of Iowa's forced fumbles) then I'm okay with that.

 

[hwk23]

They made a change a year or two ago to include defenders who do not see a blocker coming as "defenseless." I guess guys are just going to have to get used to trying to get in the defenders way, as opposed to trying to de-cleat them in that situation.

The question of whether the Miami player was considered "defenseless" is the main issue I think. If he wasn't considered defenseless it wasn't targeting. Jewell came in at about a 45 degree angle so not sure if that qualifies as a "blind side block" (which would make him "defenseless"). The player probably should have seen Jewell in his peripheral vision. Also, after watching the replay Jewell didn't initiate contact with the crown of his helmet but with his shoulder and the side of his helmet, which makes a difference if the player wasn't "defenseless".

 

[EstronHawk]

it also made the front page on msn.com last night,

 

[tksirius]

I didn't notice the stumbling. Could this help his suspension be overturned? That is if I understand it right and he is out for the first half of next week's game....

I am guessing they won't overturn it. Not with this much media coverage..... And the coaches will use it in the tape room. There was plenty of area for Jewel to have a much lower hit. And still crush the guy.

It was a brutal hit, considering that type of impact is exact what they are trying to avoid. As those impacts can cause CTE. While I agree it is football, these hits need to go at all costs(however you can minimize them?). Two Hawkeyes have killed themselves in the last year because of CTE. Sad, scary stuff. But that's football.

As far as I know, he doesn't have to sit the 1st half against ISU. That being said, how in da hehl do you not see the stumbling?

 

[hawkjunkie]

As far as I know, he doesn't have to sit the 1st half against ISU. That being said, how in da hehl do you not see the stumbling?

Me? Or Jewel?