Hawkeye Defense Absent Again in Loss at Nebraska
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In order for it to be missing it would have actually had to have existed at some point in time...lol. This Iowa team may be the worst, with respect to the fundamentals of the game, basketball team in the state...high school or college. Aren't many teams look this poorly coached night in and night out.
Bigtenchamp
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the ineptitude on defense is remarkable.
Lack of fundamentals, bad coaching, not tough...
A Division 1 coaching staff and players should be able to come up with something better then what we are seeing on the defensive end.
Lack of fundamentals, bad coaching, not tough...
A Division 1 coaching staff and players should be able to come up with something better then what we are seeing on the defensive end.
thedukeofearl
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D looked good against a plodding Badger team
Otherwise, our D is pathetic, in every aspect
Not enough time this season to correct
Seriously need an assistant who is expert coaching D, individually and teamwise
What are the chances of that
Otherwise, our D is pathetic, in every aspect
Not enough time this season to correct
Seriously need an assistant who is expert coaching D, individually and teamwise
What are the chances of that
smitharooney
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You can bring in the best defensive coach in the history of basketball and it wouldn’t help. You need athleticism to slide your feet
trj
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Really? That’s what keeping JBO from moving his feet? Athleticism. Who would have thunk it.
smitharooney
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That was surreal, watching so many fans cheering during an Iowa game, and excited.
Badger side note: I placed a $$$ bet with a Badger fan who is disgruntled...I made a bet that their coach would return next year to start their season...he says, no way and put his $$$ on the firing.
Another side note: (perhaps distractions from Iowa's BB season) I collected on a bet from a Badger/Bucks fan. I placed a bet last May that Jason Kidd would be fired from the Bucks before the end of next season...Bucks fan insisted it would never happen...gave me 10-1 odds Kidd we would be there for a long time.
Badger side note: I placed a $$$ bet with a Badger fan who is disgruntled...I made a bet that their coach would return next year to start their season...he says, no way and put his $$$ on the firing.
Another side note: (perhaps distractions from Iowa's BB season) I collected on a bet from a Badger/Bucks fan. I placed a bet last May that Jason Kidd would be fired from the Bucks before the end of next season...Bucks fan insisted it would never happen...gave me 10-1 odds Kidd we would be there for a long time.
I'm going to get railed for this but I don't think athleticism is the main issue. These players are not connected and don't play defense as a team. This group of players lack a leader on the floor and the coaching staff hasn't figured out how to help them figure it out.
83Hawk
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That said, Wisconsin did miss a lot of easy shots.
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DDThompson
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Is can’t be a good thing when Tim Miles after the game goes all Tom Izzo saying, “Fran is improving that team,” can it?
1hawkeye1
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Wisconsin is awful, which made our awful defense look decent. It's a combination of things. Slow players. Who's the fastest guy on the team? Moss, maybe? The effort he gives on defense is half assed at best.
If you watch guys on the help side when Iowa is in man, they are out of position, they often have their backs to the ball, in a fast break situation nobody knows who has who because there is no communication, and too often someone just abandons the ball handler for no apparent reason.
Zone is a little better in some ways, but worse in others. They are just so slow as a group, that no one can get to the corners to cover 3 pt shooters. When they try, they don't close out properly so they either give up an uncontested 3 or a baseline drive, which no one helps with because they don't understand where they should be until it's too late.
It's so aggravating to watch.
If you watch guys on the help side when Iowa is in man, they are out of position, they often have their backs to the ball, in a fast break situation nobody knows who has who because there is no communication, and too often someone just abandons the ball handler for no apparent reason.
Zone is a little better in some ways, but worse in others. They are just so slow as a group, that no one can get to the corners to cover 3 pt shooters. When they try, they don't close out properly so they either give up an uncontested 3 or a baseline drive, which no one helps with because they don't understand where they should be until it's too late.
It's so aggravating to watch.
I think the defense in this game was equal to the defense against Wisconsin. Nebraska was shooting jump shots while we were making layups. Normally the team making the layups will win, but Nebraska made everything the whole game.
It sucks that we suck at defense. But at least we are trying now. Last night's effort is how we will win a few more games. Make the other team shoot jumpers and hope they miss. That's all we can do right now.
It sucks that we suck at defense. But at least we are trying now. Last night's effort is how we will win a few more games. Make the other team shoot jumpers and hope they miss. That's all we can do right now.
JG10Hawk
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I don't know if it's that our defense has been so bad that I began looking for more contested jumpers while watching or what but I tend to agree with PC. They still gave up quite a few open shots but I noticed a lot more contested jumpers last night.
On a related note, I looked up the Kenpom defensive efficiency rankings to see where Iowa is at compared the the rest of the conference. As most could guess, it's not pretty.
Iowa is last in the Big Ten ranked 236th nationally while the next closest is Minnesota ranked 114th. That's a huge gap...
Fran has had some good defensive teams but these last two have struggled, this year being the worse of his tenure. Below is Iowa's defensive efficiency rank for each season under Fran.
2011 - 56th
2012 - 205th
2013 - 24th
2014 - 77th
2015 - 34th
2016 - 30th
2017 - 123rd
2018 - 236th* - 9 guaranteed games left to improve.
On a related note, I looked up the Kenpom defensive efficiency rankings to see where Iowa is at compared the the rest of the conference. As most could guess, it's not pretty.
Iowa is last in the Big Ten ranked 236th nationally while the next closest is Minnesota ranked 114th. That's a huge gap...
Fran has had some good defensive teams but these last two have struggled, this year being the worse of his tenure. Below is Iowa's defensive efficiency rank for each season under Fran.
2011 - 56th
2012 - 205th
2013 - 24th
2014 - 77th
2015 - 34th
2016 - 30th
2017 - 123rd
2018 - 236th* - 9 guaranteed games left to improve.
WinOneThisCentury
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Nebraska shot out their asses last night. I'm not saying our defense was Virginia tough...but Nebraska hasn't shot like that all year...it can be contagious. The banked three was a killer when we had climbed back to within two. Give me a break. Nebraska is also 12-1 on that floor...so they play really well at home. There are times still though, where guys stop playing with energy on defense...we have a bench...leave it on the floor. We should still play much more aggressive on D.
Honestly, I'm encouraged by they way they played offensively. Nebraska is a pretty good defensive team, I think giving up 63 or something like that. We moved the ball and got great shots and dominated in the paint. That was fun offensive basketball to watch. And we kept going to Cook down low...over and over. That's been one of my complaints with this team...too impatient and they forget what's working. They didn't last night. Encouraging.
Honestly, I'm encouraged by they way they played offensively. Nebraska is a pretty good defensive team, I think giving up 63 or something like that. We moved the ball and got great shots and dominated in the paint. That was fun offensive basketball to watch. And we kept going to Cook down low...over and over. That's been one of my complaints with this team...too impatient and they forget what's working. They didn't last night. Encouraging.
