HAVING HAD 30+ HOURS TO REFLECT ON THE OUTBACK BOWL ...

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GVGiant44

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Both things I have and have not heard:
  • Iowa was extraordinarily well-prepared yesterday, far more than Mississippi State was. Best demonstration of that was each team's response to the heat. Iowa wilted in the Tampa heat vs. Florida two years ago and learned their lesson. They turned up the heat in their practice facility. They were clearly better hydrated. And except for obvious players like Nate (who realistically didn't spend THAT much time on the field), kept rotating to stay fresh. The Bulldogs maybe assumed they would be just fine, being from Mississippi. But they were having trouble BIG TIME with cramps, etc., especially towards and in the 4th qtr.;
  • I tend to believe MSU had been watching too many SEC vs. B1G bowl games, where SEC teams like Auburn and Florida had been mopping up the floor with teams seemingly better than Iowa. One sure formula for defeat is to not take your opponent seriously. And if you can't even keep your southern woofin' to yourselves in a children's hospital, do expect that the other team is going to come out with one serious attitude to take you to the woodshed. That also was obvious, especially with our defense;
  • Two names barely talked about yesterday were MSU's Sweat, Jr. (who apparently did not play the entire 1st half - suspension??), and the guy that actually did a pretty good job keeping him at bay when he did play, Tristan Wirfs. In the midst of passing out mega-kudos, I don't want to forget him;
  • Speaking of mega-kudo's, we need to pass some out to some names not mentioned post-game yesterday but who we could not have won the game without, including: **Matt Hankins, who played solid pass defense and was the player who tripped up the receiver at the 1 1/2 yd.-line, after which we made a defensive stand and forced a field goal in the 4th qtr.; **Chauncey Golsten, who had both an interception and a fumble recovery, and was part of the defensive front that made life tough on MSU; **Miguel Recinos, whose kick-off's ensured the Bulldogs would always start in a hole, and who also made 2 40+ yd. FG's, never an assumed "gimme" distance; **Nick Niemann, who was hitting as hard as anyone yesterday, and whose perfectly-timed blitz helped bring about the "final, futile four" plays of Mississippi State that ended the ballgame;
  • Is it just me, or do we actually get better officiating when it is NOT B1G officials? Iowa State got a dose of those clowns in their bowl game, and I'm convinced they were as responsible as anyone for them losing that game;
  • I may be biased, since I now live down by there, but Tampa is a helluva place to have a good bowl experience, even if a lot of you felt "Outback fatigue". Iowa indeed may not be back down here again for a long, long time. But the Outback Bowl head called Iowa a "perfect bowl team, all the way around." You can be sure that they will always be welcome here again if things work out. Incidentally, while most years this man has equal praise for both teams, he had little to say about Mississippi State after the game. I have a hunch the bowl won't be asking them back here, maybe ever.
Just a few random thoughts from what is now a "Tampa Bay" Hawk.
 
Interesting final bullet point. Is there other rumblings why the Outback top guy would be so quiet about MSU?
 
Interesting final bullet point. Is there other rumblings why the Outback top guy would be so quiet about MSU?
Nothing official. But the word down here is that he was disgusted by their antics in the Children's hospital. I've had to spend a night there with a family with an infant headed for surgery after a bad car accident. I have no concept of anyone being idiotic enough to do something like that in a setting like that.
 
Nothing official. But the word down here is that he was disgusted by their antics in the Children's hospital. I've had to spend a night there with a family with an infant headed for surgery after a bad car accident. I have no concept of anyone being idiotic enough to do something like that in a setting like that.

What did MSU players do in the hospital? I honestly have not heard about this.
 
What did MSU players do in the hospital? I honestly have not heard about this.
One of the official Outback Bowl events is a visit to (St. Joseph's) children's hospital to visit children, something the Hawks know a LOT about. For whatever reason, Iowa chose to send mostly freshmen, red-shirters and players not on the depth chart (in the official Outback Bowl picture, Iowa had 113 players in uniform). Mississippi State sent some of their best players, who started barking at the Hawkeyes from the first minutes they were together. It continued even as they went into various children's rooms, with MSU players making digs at the size of the Hawkeye players and saying things like, "Now you're not gonna support a bunch of wimpy college boys like them, are ya?" They were loud, rude and not at all helpful in a setting where some children are terminal. By the way, this is from a nurse who was actually on-duty during that time. She said that she's seen some light-hearted antics and back-and-forth from teams in years past. But she had never seen anything like this.
 
That's disappointing to hear. There's a time and place for everything and they chose poorly, forgetting the reason they were there -the kids!
Stay classy MSU.
 
Nothing official. But the word down here is that he was disgusted by their antics in the Children's hospital. I've had to spend a night there with a family with an infant headed for surgery after a bad car accident. I have no concept of anyone being idiotic enough to do something like that in a setting like that.
The closest I can think of was when Miami played at West Virginia about 20 years ago and a Miami player was injured severely enough to require an ambulance ride to a local hospital and West Virginia "fans" were physically rocking the ambulance as it tried to leave the stadium.
 
The way msu acted on the field was enough for me but after hearing about the hospital trip I'll never have a kind word to say about them. It's always said the team will reflect their coach and I need not say anymore.
 
I personally love this bowl. This is my 3rd Outback Bowl and it never gets old. It’s a perfect little get away and always stay in Clearwater. Awesome stadium to watch a game and super easy to get in and out. I don’t understand a lot of “excuses” when people say they are over the Outback Bowl. The beach in 80 degrees and straight sun opposed to 20’s back in Iowa and not to mention an Iowa football game....doesn’t get any better.

Walking around yesterday, a local guy said to me, man you Hawkeyes are everywhere today. The Holiday Bowl weather was horrible this year. The 3 years being at the Outback has been fantastic. Go Hawks.
 
The way msu acted on the field was enough for me but after hearing about the hospital trip I'll never have a kind word to say about them. It's always said the team will reflect their coach and I need not say anymore.
Hopefully when a 9-3 MSU team is banished to the Liberty Bowl next year they will exhibit better behavior when they visit St. Jude's children's hospital.
 
Interesting final bullet point. Is there other rumblings why the Outback top guy would be so quiet about MSU?
They also brought no fans to the game. Their side of the field was empty. The fans that were there were not very cordial when they were asked to put the cowbells away when teams broke the huddle. They acted like they had never tailgated before and really they were nowhere to be seen before the game. It's like MSU wasn't really even at the bowl game. No one wants to invite a team that won't bring people and won't spend money.

But as others said, the Hospital visit was probably the worst thing about them.
 
Two teams that have the makings of champions, but highly unusual glaring weaknesses particularly compared to strengths. No much has really changed, except that we looked into the mirror at us.

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Mississippi not known for being a top 45 state in the nation for intelligence ....

What are you trying to say? Some of you just don't get it. Just stop being ignorant. Stop saying such non intelligent things.

The racial diversity in Mississippi is spread across approximately 59% Caucasians, 37.5% African Americans, 1.2% two or more races, 1% Asians, .9% other races, and .4% Native North Americans.

Iowa
White 2,823,890 90.9%
Black or African American 103,052 3.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 9,951 0.3%
Asian 66,570 2.1%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 2,422 0.1%
Some other race 39,410 1.3%
Two or more races 61,294 2.0%
 
Good take, sad to hear about what happened at the childrens hospital. No excuses for any of that.
 
What are you trying to say? Some of you just don't get it. Just stop being ignorant. Stop saying such non intelligent things.

The racial diversity in Mississippi is spread across approximately 59% Caucasians, 37.5% African Americans, 1.2% two or more races, 1% Asians, .9% other races, and .4% Native North Americans.

Iowa
White 2,823,890 90.9%
Black or African American 103,052 3.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 9,951 0.3%
Asian 66,570 2.1%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 2,422 0.1%
Some other race 39,410 1.3%
Two or more races 61,294 2.0%

What are you trying to say? He said the state wasn't smart and you brought up race. I've seen some racist posts on here before but yours takes the cake.
 
What are you trying to say? He said the state wasn't smart and you brought up race. I've seen some racist posts on here before but yours takes the cake.

You just demonstrated my point. You took the cake and ate it whole.

Poverty and educational attainment is about opportunity and discrimination.

To make a point about how smart a state is or isnt when that state has the largest black population is pretty damned racist.

You do realize that Childrens Hospitals such as Stead dont easily accept some cases for kids on medicaid. Mississippi is last on income. While we are discussing bad behavior of MSU players, a number come from a different world than average Joe and Jane Iowan.
 
You just demonstrated my point. You took the cake and ate it whole.

Poverty and educational attainment is about opportunity and discrimination.

To make a point about how smart a state is or isnt when that state has the largest black population is pretty damned racist.

You do realize that Childrens Hospitals such as Stead dont easily accept some cases for kids on medicaid. Mississippi is last on income. While we are discussing bad behavior of MSU players, a number come from a different world than average Joe and Jane Iowan.
Different cultures do have different tendencies and ways of acting. Not all are healthy or worthy of being imitated. Just the way it has always been whether it is blamed on others or not. Some personal accountability is always refreshing.
 
You just demonstrated my point. You took the cake and ate it whole.

Poverty and educational attainment is about opportunity and discrimination.

To make a point about how smart a state is or isnt when that state has the largest black population is pretty damned racist.

You do realize that Childrens Hospitals such as Stead dont easily accept some cases for kids on medicaid. Mississippi is last on income. While we are discussing bad behavior of MSU players, a number come from a different world than average Joe and Jane Iowan.

I know for a fact that the children's hospital (university hospital) here does take cases pro Bono. Or whatever you want to call it.
Fact they bus people in if needed from other parts of the state.
 
You just demonstrated my point. You took the cake and ate it whole.

Poverty and educational attainment is about opportunity and discrimination.

To make a point about how smart a state is or isnt when that state has the largest black population is pretty damned racist.

You do realize that Childrens Hospitals such as Stead dont easily accept some cases for kids on medicaid. Mississippi is last on income. While we are discussing bad behavior of MSU players, a number come from a different world than average Joe and Jane Iowan.
What about West Virginia? They are terrible in education but are over 90% white. Am I allowed to make fun of their education system under your rules to live by?
 
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