Have we crossed the rubicon with Kirks conservatism?

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alexzelada

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For some reason, this year we have chosen to take points off the scoreboard.

Last year we put points up with punt return touchdowns and pick six's.

This year our players are literally too shell-shocked to attempt either.

I think Kirk's conservatism has won us a lot of games and from 99-2013 we benefited from it. But starting this year I think we are seeing that is has become a liability. Keeping CJ outa the Iowa State game likely cost us that game. Iowa State is way worse than Purdue and we beat them by two touchdowns (shoulda been 3).

Kirk is Tom Davis. Can someone explain why our AD hasn't reminded him that being Lute Olson is the goal? It's almost as if he NEEDS to lose against a patsy to get himself focused on what his team should be accomplishing.
 
how has KF been conservative this year?

The example he gave was KF not playing CJ against ISU.

KF certainly wasn't conservative against PU. It cost us 6 points, also. But, if KF went for it on 4th down, twice, inside PU's 10 yard line because he was trying to give CJ and the offense additional live red zone reps, then I am okay with that. It also showed me that KF does have confidence in CJ and it tells me KF does probably view CJ as the answer. He's gonna make him work for it, but I just get the impression that CJ is going to be the starter from here on out.
 
If anything KF is getting more aggressive. From playing for TD's instead of FG, to playing more aggresive blitzing Defense, to playing a backup QB as he might bring bigger plays to the table.

It seems that some fans are so locked into old criticisms, that they can't see when things are changing. Now is KF ever gonna be a river boat gambler? No of course not, but at the same time I think it is easy to see some more aggressive tendencies out of KF this year.
 
This is Kirk with his hair on fire this year. Are you kidding me? We are near the top in the nation in 4th down conversions. He's about to switch QBs from a solid conservative guy (who got us to a bowl game) to a talented goldenboy who just threw a pick 6. Also, Purdue isn't better than ISU, let alone way better. Purdue is the worst team in the Big Ten.
 
The example he gave was KF not playing CJ against ISU.

KF certainly wasn't conservative against PU. It cost us 6 points, also. But, if KF went for it on 4th down, twice, inside PU's 10 yard line because he was trying to give CJ and the offense additional live red zone reps, then I am okay with that. It also showed me that KF does have confidence in CJ and it tells me KF does probably view CJ as the answer. He's gonna make him work for it, but I just get the impression that CJ is going to be the starter from here on out.

I do too Arvada. I just can't wrap my head around how any of this would be happening if KF wasn't looking for CJ to come out and just finally take this job. I think KF knows CJ is the more explosive QB, and just wants him to grab the job and run with it.
 
Bad boob jobs last night, now rubicons tonight, you guys are coming up with some clever thread titles :cool:.

Actually I agree with some of the previous posters that we are taking more chances this year. Going for it on 4th downs, more blitzing on D, etc.. I would like to see fewer fair catches on punts.
 
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I'm worried Kurt is going to get too aggressive. There's a happy medium where you take 3 points or punt or whatever and I'm glad to see Kurt switching it up and moving the needle a little the other way from where he typically has been, but I'm a little worried he's gonna do a Les Miles impersonation and cost us a game once we are playing some team other than the little sisters of the poor.
 
I'll concede defense isn't as conservative. But I'm gonna have to give each of you a thrashing on this topic. Sorry in advance to each of you for the wood-shedding you're about to receive.
 
For some reason, this year we have chosen to take points off the scoreboard.

Last year we put points up with punt return touchdowns and pick six's.

This year our players are literally too shell-shocked to attempt either.

I think Kirk's conservatism has won us a lot of games and from 99-2013 we benefited from it. But starting this year I think we are seeing that is has become a liability. Keeping CJ outa the Iowa State game likely cost us that game. Iowa State is way worse than Purdue and we beat them by two touchdowns (shoulda been 3).

Kirk is Tom Davis. Can someone explain why our AD hasn't reminded him that being Lute Olson is the goal? It's almost as if he NEEDS to lose against a patsy to get himself focused on what his team should be accomplishing.


Well, you must be in that secret society who is trying to bring back to life that word which has fallen out of favor. Link
 
crossed? I think Iowa crossed that a LONG time ago. Someone should tell KF that it IS possible to have both a good defense and offense at the same time AND it usually results in more wins.
 
kirk has been more aggressive in some situations for sure... but the ultimate aggressive play would be to play CJB


So we will see...
 
I'm worried Kurt is going to get too aggressive. There's a happy medium where you take 3 points or punt or whatever and I'm glad to see Kurt switching it up and moving the needle a little the other way from where he typically has been, but I'm a little worried he's gonna do a Les Miles impersonation and cost us a game once we are playing some team other than the little sisters of the poor.

Agreed. Going for it at Purdue with two minutes left when a fg would seal the deal was not aggressive. It was stupid.
 
IOWA NUMBER OF 3 AND OUT SERIES
UNI 3
BALL ST 2
ISU 3
PITT NONE
PURDUE 7

Iowa is 2-0 on the road with CJ. Iowa scores 40 against Purdue without all the drops and brain dead decisions not to take chip shot Field Goals. He bailed us out at Pitt.

Iowa is 2-1 at home with J.R. Iowa was VERY lucky not to be 0-3 after those home games. Our offense sucked horribly in those games.
Ball State and ISU defenses are about as bad as can be. UNI is average.

Points on the board is what counts.
 
I'm worried Kurt is going to get too aggressive. There's a happy medium where you take 3 points or punt or whatever and I'm glad to see Kurt switching it up and moving the needle a little the other way from where he typically has been, but I'm a little worried he's gonna do a Les Miles impersonation and cost us a game once we are playing some team other than the little sisters of the poor.

Good point, OK4P. I, too, am worried about this.

I am also worried that Vlad Putin will crack down too hard on Syria and that Kentucky basketball will realize the error of their ways and begin recruiting three-star athletes that stay for four years.
 
Agreed. Going for it at Purdue with two minutes left when a fg would seal the deal was not aggressive. It was stupid.


^ Correct, it is stupid not to try and make a chip shot 28 yard field goal after a 17 play drive against purdue to take the lead 13-10. I could not believe that.

When your defense is working it is not stupid, it is correct to go on 4th down from the opponent 35 yard line, especially depending on the game situation and score.

And like blubber says above, an extra point length field goal with two minutes left puts you up 3 scores. We threw a pass on both of these 4th downs that could have been tipped and turned into a pick 6 much more easily than purdue blocking the field goal and returning it for a TD.

Some very strange decision making there.
 

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