JonDMiller
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This is a really good idea
Guest View: Is Ferentz Legacy Fading?
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This is a really good idea
Herkyalert
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I still have faith in Kirk, but that article was both depressing and filled with hard facts.
BILLBUCKNER
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What would have been a good idea is if Fry left for 'greener pastures' after his Iowa rebuild and Bill Snyder took over. But that's the ultimate Monday QB in me.
okeefe4prez
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Orenj bowl.
tm3308
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Not sure this was the best example, considering Fry went 27-20 in '95-'98, and 16-16 in the Big Ten.
GhostofBTT
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With 1997 being an absolutely STACKED team.
GhostofBTT
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However, in Fry's day, there was no Penn St., plus Wisconsin, Michigan St., and Northwestern were all pathetic in the 80's. While I know this season has been a joke for the BoneG, particularly our schedule, but if you put some of Kurt's mid-2000 teams in the mid-1980's BoneG, they would run wild on them.
Herkyalert
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I still cannot figure out how Iowa had two Hesiman contenders that season in Banks and Dwight and still only won 7 games. Perhaps I blocked a lot of the second half of the 1997 season out, but they were loaded.
When 989 made NCAA Gamebreaker for the PS1, the 1997 Iowa team was featured as one of the team you could pick among the legend teams. Can't remember the year but I think it was the 2000 edition.
1997 was KF's 2010.
I think the hire of coach Davis was a good one...bring in an experienced, mature, coordinator who has seen just about everything there is to see. Because the system has obviously failed, we are in a tough spot. Has it failed due to scheme? Has it failed due to KF over ruling parts of the system? Has it failed, and this is the most likely, due to a lack of talent in the athletes we now have playing? I certainly agree with many who believe we need to make some major changes in our scheme. I think if KF retains Davis, and I think he will, that the two of them are smart enough and experienced enough to adjust their scheme to a different approach. After all, we know that the X's and O's in KF and Davis' knowledge base are about as wide and deep as any coaching staff in the country. Schemes are not, after all, rocket science.
homes
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And you no doubt base this on the countless examples of Ferentz's unfettered willingness to adjust in the past. Like the time he. . . no, wait. Or the time he, no, no. . . not that time. Or when he, sorry, I was thinking of someone else. How about when he, . . . nevermind.
eveningnewsteam
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No they werent. They had good enough skill people to beat the **** out of terrible teams, but couldnt stand up physically against anyone with a pulse.
JonDMiller
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I agree with this. I think 2010 was a bigger 'failure' than 97. I was just more emotionally mature in 2010 than I was in 1997
eveningnewsteam
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They only won 7 games because they couldnt hold up at the line of scrimmage against good teams.
Home, I did not say that they would change the scheme significantly...I said they certainly have the ability to do so.
1977Hawkeye
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That team had to play @Michigan (who won the national title that year) and @OSU. Also I thought Matt Sherman got hurt mid-season, so Iowa had to go with its backup QB, and I seem to remember that team losing close games @NW and @Wisconsin in his absence. I forget who the backup QB was, but I know he wasn't too good.
That team probably goes 9-2 regular season instead of 7-4 if Sherman doesn't go down, but maybe my memory fails me. It was 15 years ago. The bowl game sucked that year too, but am not sure how much of that was Sherman rust vs. the team just not showing up that day.
I have the ability to chop my right arm off to become more coordinated with my left hand. I have thus far in my life shown that I am unwilling to do so. Therefore, who gives a crap what my ability is?
hawkeyebob62
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A very valid point. And while we can grouse about "injuries", it's more about "depth". In 2005 we lost Hinkel for several games, and it showed. In 2010, we lost Jewel, then ARob, then a few OL, and Clayborn played much of the season "hurt".
It's easy to plug in continually at a single position. 2004 showed that when you are down to Sam Brownlee, you can use Drew Tate as your de facto RB who throws to "penalize" defenses for overplaying the run or blitzing while licking your chops.
I think people take our injuries too lightly, but at the same time, I am shocked by how little depth we have. I understand player defections, "bad-for-the-program" position coaches, etc. Still...
I do feel one thing: Brian Ferentz should not be our OC next year. But, neither should Greg Davis.
People can blame JVB, or say receivers drop balls, etc., but these same receivers didn't have drops to such an extreme last year. Davis, as OC, has gthe job of going to KF and saying, "Let's tweak this. Forget the speed issue, forget what was done at Texas. This is Iowa. This is who we have. Where should we go with it?" And as HC, it is KFs job to approach Davis and ask, "Do you think this is working? Are the players buying in? What workable adjustment do you see?"
One or the other (or both) has apparently not done this. And the last 4th-down play call, given the time-out being called, reeks (to me) of Davis and maybe another staffer imploring KF to go for it. Heck, I even had visions of the PA-pass-to-Reisner from the Insight Bowl in 2010. Alas, my vision was not shared, and worse, I pretty much KNEW we wouldn't make it AND Purdue would find a way to score.
hawkeyebob62
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doc, I think it's multiple problems.
One, I don't think it's a good scheme for our personnel, nor is it a scheme I really see KF using.
Two, we obviously either lack the personnel, OR, they aren't buying into it as much as media day interviews lead us to believe.
Three, KF hasn't overruled it enough, IMO. The ONE time I thought we should have punted, I assumed KF would. But a time-out call later, and we see a play that only Greg Davis seems to think worthy.
If it REALLY is about "speed" and "personnel", it means we have to change our whole recruiting mindset. KFs success has never been built around plucking gems from Florida, California or Texas. Half the guys we get from Ohio are OSU "rejects", at best. I just think GD needs to be gone.
