Gronowski

[trj]

I'd say the one asterisk to that list is Vandenberg. His junior year, before GD showed up, he was at 59% completion, 3,000 yards, 25 TDs and only 7 INTs. That's damn good for a first year starter at Iowa.

What would he have done with a second year starting under KOK?

His numbers are pretty equal to Stanley's. It's hard to prove, but it felt like Vandenberg had a little better feel for the game and a bit of gamer to him. That's the area Stanley seemed to fall short. Almost tried too hard in big moments - overthought it, overthrew it, was in his head a bit...something.

I will be the bad guy here. I think JVB’s 2011 season is overrated. He piled up a bunch of stats in about 5 games, and the other 7, he wasn’t good. Was he the fall guy in 2012 for GD? Absolutely, and he deserves credit for that. That said, even if KOK had returned in 2012, he wasn’t good enough to overcome all the o-line injuries that made that 2012 team 4-8.

2009 OSU game…I thought we had a dude. After the 2011 season… I was skeptical and it played out as such.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Yeah JV got a raw deal... Davis and his system didn't work for him. Coming out of HS and then how he looked at first I thought we had a great Qb potentially in him. KF swung and miss hiring Davis that's for sure. He kinda gets a pass cause of how bad BF ended up being. But Davis wasn't a great fit at all either.

This.
Many like to rip James but he was ruined by Davis. He led the B1G in yards/game was 23/5 TD/INT. That's no fluke. The kid could sling it.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

This.
Many like to rip James but he was ruined by Davis. He led the B1G in yards/game was 23/5 TD/INT. That's no fluke. The kid could sling it.

People were so split on KOK and his mixed bag of success that they were fired up when Davis was brought in... But man I woulda liked to have seen how JVB woulda done had he had KOK the duration of his career instead. At least KOK had success. Davis and his short horizontal passing attack was a bad fit and went on too long

 

[Gibsonian]

It’s all about the shoulder. If it’s good and solid, gonna be a fun ride this season

 

[SCHawkeye2]

Dont want to get to far out over my skis...
I anticipate Gronowski can deliver a Nate Stanley level performance. Anything else is a bonus.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

I somewhat agree on Stanley. He won a lot of games and was solid at QB. Low ceiling, high floor, mostly got the job done.

I have him 5th on the KF QB list:

Tate
Banks
Beetherd
AmeriStanzi
Stanley

The list stops for me there.

Here's my ranking of Iowa QB's in the Ferentz era, so far.

1. Banks
2. Stanzi
3. Tate
4. Beathard
5. Chandler
6. Stanley
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

 

[Hawkboys]

Here's my ranking of Iowa QB's in the Ferentz era, so far.

1. Banks
2. Stanzi
3. Tate
4. Beathard
5. Chandler
6. Stanley
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

Sullivan is at least 12

 

[Gander Hawk]

Here's my ranking of Iowa QB's in the Ferentz era, so far.

1. Banks
2. Stanzi
3. Tate
4. Beathard
5. Chandler
6. Stanley
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

Personally I think Stanzi is a little overrated. He played with some excellent defenses that bailed him out of those Rick-6's he threw with some regularity.

 

[Grady]

Sullivan is at least 12

Heck, I'd rank Sullivan #9 on that list. What a top-heavy group...not much to cheer about after #8, and frankly, only the Top 4 could really be called exceptional. Agreed, Stanzi is a little higher on that list than I'd have him.

 

[Chickenlounge]

Here's my ranking of Iowa QB's in the Ferentz era, so far.

1. Banks
2. Stanzi
3. Tate
4. Beathard
5. Chandler
6. Stanley
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

I wish we could put Hill lower than #14.

 

[Hawkboys]

I wish we could put Hill lower than #14.

Definitely not a Hill that I would die on.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Here's my ranking of Iowa QB's in the Ferentz era, so far.

1. Banks
2. Stanzi
3. Tate
4. Beathard
5. Chandler
6. Stanley
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

Hmm... I could see flipping Stanley and Chandler. The 2-4 guys I could see shuffled up any kind of other way too. The 7-14 guys are pretty much dead on.

I was so disappointed with how bad JC ended up being with all the hype he had with that class he came in with.

 

[SCHawkeye2]

1. Banks
2. Tate
3. Beathard
4. Stanley
5. Stanzi
6. Chandler
7. Rudock
8. Vandenberg
9. McCann
10. Petras
11. McNamara
12. Christensen
13. Mullen
14. Hill

 

[HawkeyeFever]

Heck, I'd rank Sullivan #9 on that list. What a top-heavy group...not much to cheer about after #8, and frankly, only the Top 4 could really be called exceptional. Agreed, Stanzi is a little higher on that list than I'd have him.

I liked Sullivan because he brought fire to the position, kind of like Drew Tate. He was in it to win it, which led to some bad decisions running the ball and injury wise, but he never didn’t try as hard as he could (and he had to fire up some teammates along the way).

 

[ShemHawk]

Personally I think Stanzi is a little overrated. He played with some excellent defenses that bailed him out of those Rick-6's he threw with some regularity.

Talent-wise, I'd agree, but he had whatever "it" is...it always seemed to me that his teammates never felt like they were out of a game when he was behind center.

 

[Gander Hawk]

Heck, I'd rank Sullivan #9 on that list. What a top-heavy group...not much to cheer about after #8, and frankly, only the Top 4 could really be called exceptional. Agreed, Stanzi is a little higher on that list than I'd have him.

McCann played with some pretty bad o-lines in front of him. I vividly remember a game where he took hits before he had a chance to even drop back to pass.