gotta pull for Nebby and PSU

uihawk82

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the hawks and others will take care of Nebby later. now nebby needs to help us and hawks need to win. jNW kitties needs to lose in its crossover game to the other cats. Hawks beat wisky later and even losing only to OSU could put the hawks in position to win the west with 3 losses with one more wisky loss.

oh and we dont need the goofers winning on the road
 
the hawks and others will take care of Nebby later. now nebby needs to help us and hawks need to win. jNW kitties needs to lose in its crossover game to the other cats. Hawks beat wisky later and even losing only to OSU could put the hawks in position to win the west with 3 losses with one more wisky loss.

oh and we dont need the goofers winning on the road
I can't root for Nebby
 
You just can't explain it to peeps - I mean, Iowa can't lose on Saturday with regards to Nebraska vs Wisconsin. Either team losing is good, it just happens to be that it would be much better for Nebraska to win in grand scheme of things from Iowa's perspective. Nebraska is 2-0 after beating Rutgers and IL - the 2 worst teams in the league. Iowa is 0-2 after playing the best team in the league and a tough road game. Wisconsin does not have a lot road blocks and Nebraska is something like 20-0 in their last 20 night games. Iowa could use one here.
 
I can't root for Nebby


X5.

I don't know why, but I just can't. We already have two losses, so really there is no bearing on us if they win or lose this year. Iowa isn't going to get invited to the playoff with two losses but still controls their own destiny as far as winning the West.

To be honest, I enjoy watching Nebby lose and implode too much.
 
X5.

I don't know why, but I just can't. We already have two losses, so really there is no bearing on us if they win or lose this year. Iowa isn't going to get invited to the playoff with two losses but still controls their own destiny as far as winning the West.

To be honest, I enjoy watching Nebby lose and implode too much.

Iowa needs Wisconsin to lose x2 if not more, so I dunno if you can say they completely control their own destiny. Or am I looking at it wrong? I definitely could be. I love watching Nebraska lose so much... someone tell me its ok to want it and I am all in.
 
Iowa needs Wisconsin to lose x2 if not more, so I dunno if you can say they completely control their own destiny. Or am I looking at it wrong? I definitely could be. I love watching Nebraska lose so much... someone tell me its ok to want it and I am all in.

How does that work with cross division games? Iowa hasn't played a West team yet. Won't they win the division if they beat Wisky and win out?
 
Wisconsin's Remaining Schedule

at Nebraska
Purdue
Maryland
at Illinois
at Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
at Minnesota

Nebraska's Remaining Schedule

Wisconsin
Ohio State
at Purdue
Northwestern
at Minnesota
at Penn State
Iowa

Iowa's Remaining Schedule

Illinois
at Northwestern
Minnesota
Ohio State
at Wisconsin
Purdue
at Nebraska

Nebraska is 2-0, Wisconsin 1-0 and Iowa 0-2 in conference right now
 
How does that work with cross division games? Iowa hasn't played a West team yet. Won't they win the division if they beat Wisky and win out?

The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:



(a) If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.



1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.

2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.

3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.



4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.

5. The best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 – East 1 would be the representative.



6. The records of the three teams will be compared against the highest placed non-divisional teams in their division order of finish (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).



(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.

(b) When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the record will prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e. 1-0 is better than 0-0, 2-0 is better than 1-0, etc.)

7. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.

8. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

If one or both of the Big Ten division champions is ineligible to play in the Big Ten Championship Game, then the participant(s) in the Big Ten Championship Game shall be determined by the following procedure:



a) If the ineligible team is tied for the division championship, then the team it tied with shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

b) If two or more teams are tied with an ineligible team for the division championship, then the ineligible team is removed and the remaining teams revert to the tie-break procedure.

c) The division runner-up shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

d) If there is a division runner-up tie, then the tied teams shall revert to the tie-break procedure.

If the championship game cannot be played (due to any reason beyond the control of the Big Ten Conference), the two division champions (using divisional tie-breakers as set forth above) shall be declared co-champions and the following procedure will be used to determine the Big Ten Conference representative to the College Football Playoff:



a) Teams ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll will automatically be placed in the College Football Playoff.

b) If the two divisional representatives met previously in the season and neither is ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll, the team ranked highest in the final poll shall be the representative to the College Football Playoff, unless the other team is ranked within five or fewer places of the higher ranked team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the two teams shall determine the conference's representative.

c) If the two divisional representatives did not meet previously during the season, the team ranked highest in the College Football Playoff poll shall be the representative.

d) If the two teams are tied in the College Football Playoff poll, the team with the best overall Big Ten record shall be the representative.

e) If the two teams remain tied after d), the team with the best combined record of the tied teams against all common Big Ten opponents each team played that season shall be the representative.

f) If the two teams remain tied after e), the representative will be the team with the best overall winning percentage.

g) If the two teams remain tied after f), the representative will be the team furthest removed from College Football Playoff, Bowl Championships Series or Rose Bowl Game participation (as appropriate).

h) If the two teams remain tied after g), the representative shall be determined by a random draw.
 
The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:



(a) If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.



1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.

2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.

3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.



4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.

5. The best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 – East 1 would be the representative.



6. The records of the three teams will be compared against the highest placed non-divisional teams in their division order of finish (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).



(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.

(b) When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the record will prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e. 1-0 is better than 0-0, 2-0 is better than 1-0, etc.)

7. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.

8. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

If one or both of the Big Ten division champions is ineligible to play in the Big Ten Championship Game, then the participant(s) in the Big Ten Championship Game shall be determined by the following procedure:



a) If the ineligible team is tied for the division championship, then the team it tied with shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

b) If two or more teams are tied with an ineligible team for the division championship, then the ineligible team is removed and the remaining teams revert to the tie-break procedure.

c) The division runner-up shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

d) If there is a division runner-up tie, then the tied teams shall revert to the tie-break procedure.

If the championship game cannot be played (due to any reason beyond the control of the Big Ten Conference), the two division champions (using divisional tie-breakers as set forth above) shall be declared co-champions and the following procedure will be used to determine the Big Ten Conference representative to the College Football Playoff:



a) Teams ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll will automatically be placed in the College Football Playoff.

b) If the two divisional representatives met previously in the season and neither is ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll, the team ranked highest in the final poll shall be the representative to the College Football Playoff, unless the other team is ranked within five or fewer places of the higher ranked team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the two teams shall determine the conference's representative.

c) If the two divisional representatives did not meet previously during the season, the team ranked highest in the College Football Playoff poll shall be the representative.

d) If the two teams are tied in the College Football Playoff poll, the team with the best overall Big Ten record shall be the representative.

e) If the two teams remain tied after d), the team with the best combined record of the tied teams against all common Big Ten opponents each team played that season shall be the representative.

f) If the two teams remain tied after e), the representative will be the team with the best overall winning percentage.

g) If the two teams remain tied after f), the representative will be the team furthest removed from College Football Playoff, Bowl Championships Series or Rose Bowl Game participation (as appropriate).

h) If the two teams remain tied after g), the representative shall be determined by a random draw.
Rob, is all that just off the top of your head? That's impressive!

But, you forgot the preamble,and the amendments.
 
Its possible that Nebraska could lose every remaining game on their schedule


Nebraska's Remaining Schedule

Wisconsin
Ohio State
at Purdue
Northwestern
at Minnesota
at Penn State
Iowa
 
The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:



(a) If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.



1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.

2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.

3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.



4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.

5. The best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 – East 1 would be the representative.



6. The records of the three teams will be compared against the highest placed non-divisional teams in their division order of finish (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).



(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.

(b) When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the record will prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e. 1-0 is better than 0-0, 2-0 is better than 1-0, etc.)

7. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.

8. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

If one or both of the Big Ten division champions is ineligible to play in the Big Ten Championship Game, then the participant(s) in the Big Ten Championship Game shall be determined by the following procedure:



a) If the ineligible team is tied for the division championship, then the team it tied with shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

b) If two or more teams are tied with an ineligible team for the division championship, then the ineligible team is removed and the remaining teams revert to the tie-break procedure.

c) The division runner-up shall be the Big Ten Championship Game representative.

d) If there is a division runner-up tie, then the tied teams shall revert to the tie-break procedure.

If the championship game cannot be played (due to any reason beyond the control of the Big Ten Conference), the two division champions (using divisional tie-breakers as set forth above) shall be declared co-champions and the following procedure will be used to determine the Big Ten Conference representative to the College Football Playoff:



a) Teams ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll will automatically be placed in the College Football Playoff.

b) If the two divisional representatives met previously in the season and neither is ranked No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 in the final College Football Playoff poll, the team ranked highest in the final poll shall be the representative to the College Football Playoff, unless the other team is ranked within five or fewer places of the higher ranked team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the two teams shall determine the conference's representative.

c) If the two divisional representatives did not meet previously during the season, the team ranked highest in the College Football Playoff poll shall be the representative.

d) If the two teams are tied in the College Football Playoff poll, the team with the best overall Big Ten record shall be the representative.

e) If the two teams remain tied after d), the team with the best combined record of the tied teams against all common Big Ten opponents each team played that season shall be the representative.

f) If the two teams remain tied after e), the representative will be the team with the best overall winning percentage.

g) If the two teams remain tied after f), the representative will be the team furthest removed from College Football Playoff, Bowl Championships Series or Rose Bowl Game participation (as appropriate).

h) If the two teams remain tied after g), the representative shall be determined by a random draw.

I'm going to need the Cliffs Notes here. Or maybe a flowchart.
 
yeah, i think/thought the crossovers definitely matter.


Not if a team beats every team in their division. They only count when there is a three way tie. Say if two way tie with Iowa and Wisky and Iowa beat Wisky, Iowa would win the division even though have 2 non-div losses. It's pretty clear cut until 3 teams tie. If only down to 2 teams, it's what they did in the division and head-to-head. That's the way I read it.
 

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