Gophers need to row harder

A lot of Rodent fans are onto the fact that their ball coach is all hat and no cattle. Sure, he can sprint up and down the sideline with the best of them, but otherwise he's just full of shit and a snake oil salesman.

The point is that PJ Fleck is a shifty twitchy blowhard douchebag who overpromises and under delivers
 
okeefe4prez said:
Good points. There is just something off about Minneapolis. They have this massive hardon about being a big city in the same vein as San Fran, NY or Chicago but the town is basically just a giant freeway that is uninhabitable from October through April. They have this total look at me concept to see how hard they can virtue signal and it devolves into stupid shit like "we had the first transgender woman of color water department chief." Their heads are so far up their own asses that it's just really, really strange.

Those are not the kind of people that are gonna turn out in major numbers for outdoor football games. Don't get me wrong, Madison and Iowa City have their shares of liberal loons, but my guess is that the normal people who might live an hour or two from Minneapolis who a probably otherwise Gopher fans think to themselves "there is no way in hell I'm going to drive 2 hours and sit in traffic to visit that shithole city to watch a football game." Not a lot of people want to trudge through city traffic on a Saturday afternoon to watch college football.
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I'm an off the charts cultural libertarian (cultural conservatives would consider me a liberal loon) and it ain't my ilk populating football games. Except when it comes to ETOH...then all of these God fearin' types are even further off the libtard charts than me, as I've never been stumble drunk on a gameday.

Also I actually know the words to the National Anthem in spite of my position that playing it at purely domestic sporting events is stupid as hell and borderline sacrilegeous.

I highly value my consistency and I strongly despise their hypocrisy. That's the bottom line. But I still like football game day, dumbass hypocritical conflicted rubes notwithstanding.

RE the twin cities, yeah, total wannabe town. Gave us Prince. Nothing else.
 
ThunderHawk said:
A lot of Rodent fans are onto the fact that their ball coach is all hat and no cattle. Sure, he can sprint up and down the sideline with the best of them, but otherwise he's just full of shit and a snake oil salesman.

The point is that PJ Fleck is a shifty twitchy blowhard douchebag who overpromises and under delivers
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Good stuff in both posts. But I have to question your use of the phrase "a lot of Gopher fans". I don't think there are a lot... ;)
 
mopkins said:
I still don't understand why the Gophers put a f'ing OAR on their helmet? It makes zero sense and looks so completely stupid

Imagine if Ferentz put a rock breaking on the Hawkeye's helmet because his motto is "break the rock". Hawkeye fans would revolt.

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If I had really really poor taste, I might say something like "Oh, that's where that unfortunate gal's maxipad ended up." I'm a little surprised at myself for letting that pop into my head. Well, not too surprised.
 
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okeefe4prez said:
Good points. There is just something off about Minneapolis. They have this massive hardon about being a big city in the same vein as San Fran, NY or Chicago but the town is basically just a giant freeway that is uninhabitable from October through April. They have this total look at me concept to see how hard they can virtue signal and it devolves into stupid shit like "we had the first transgender woman of color water department chief." Their heads are so far up their own asses that it's just really, really strange.

Those are not the kind of people that are gonna turn out in major numbers for outdoor football games. Don't get me wrong, Madison and Iowa City have their shares of liberal loons, but my guess is that the normal people who might live an hour or two from Minneapolis who a probably otherwise Gopher fans think to themselves "there is no way in hell I'm going to drive 2 hours and sit in traffic to visit that shithole city to watch a football game." Not a lot of people want to trudge through city traffic on a Saturday afternoon to watch college football.
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Better off sticking with the Minneapolis music scene. Prince, the Time, the Replacements, Husker Du, Soul Asylum, the Jayhawks, etc. I do enjoy visiting in the summer or early fall, however.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Good points. There is just something off about Minneapolis. They have this massive hardon about being a big city in the same vein as San Fran, NY or Chicago but the town is basically just a giant freeway that is uninhabitable from October through April. They have this total look at me concept to see how hard they can virtue signal and it devolves into stupid shit like "we had the first transgender woman of color water department chief." Their heads are so far up their own asses that it's just really, really strange.

Those are not the kind of people that are gonna turn out in major numbers for outdoor football games. Don't get me wrong, Madison and Iowa City have their shares of liberal loons, but my guess is that the normal people who might live an hour or two from Minneapolis who a probably otherwise Gopher fans think to themselves "there is no way in hell I'm going to drive 2 hours and sit in traffic to visit that shithole city to watch a football game." Not a lot of people want to trudge through city traffic on a Saturday afternoon to watch college football.
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I live in the twin cities and work on the fringe of Minneapolis and I can assure you those are all false stereotypes. Sure there are these ultra liberal hippie hangouts where they drink pabst blue ribbon and wear stocking hats during the summer, but it's not even close to the norm.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Here's the deal that I heard. Fleck owns the trademark on the phrase "Row The Boat" through his agent. It was originally owned by Western Michigan, but he got them to transfer it. He then licensed it to Minnesota for them to put on shirts and gear. He gets a license fee but he supposedly transfers the license fee to charity (of course I'd bet he still takes the tax break for the charitable contribution).

So of course, he's trying to make the phrase his big thing. To commercialize a phrase like that and license it to the school (where it will become a laughingstock after he gets fired or leaves if through some miracle he gets a better job) is probably the pinnacle of douchebaggery among D-1 coaches, and that's really saying something. I just can't believe the powers that be at Minnesota could look at their football traditions like the Little Brown Jug, Floyd of Rosedale and the Paul Bunyan Axe, not to mention their storied history (albeit somewhat dated) and then let some charlatan outsider with absolutely no connection to the state or school change their branding. It's really unbelievable.
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Fleck is indeed the paragon of grifting douchebaggery. What a self-serving asshole. IOWA ain't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but even Buyout Barta would balk at slapping some douchebag coach's lameass trademark on a football helmet.
 
mopkins said:
I live in the twin cities and work on the fringe of Minneapolis and I can assure you those are all false stereotypes. Sure there are these ultra liberal hippie hangouts where they drink pabst blue ribbon and wear stocking hats during the summer, but it's not even close to the norm.
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Any town with anything resembling vibrancy is harboring hipsters. It's a cost of progress. To wit, I saw a hipster in Des Moines walking down the street (full hipster uniform: Stocking cap, tight jeans and fitted flannel shirt, Chuck Taylors) smoking a pipe. I'm not talking crack pipe or hash pipe here. Dude had an old school glorious Dad Pipe, and he was smoking that sumbitch. Walking past a pre school, no less.

I have to admit that the scene engendered some degree of grudging respect.
 
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hawkdrummer1 said:
Good stuff in both posts. But I have to question your use of the phrase "a lot of Gopher fans". I don't think there are a lot... ;)
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Good point. I should have used the precedent "All things being relative..." :D

Just wait until Kirk Cousins blows his ACL in week 3 after a totally underwhelming start to the season. They'll need to put Prozac (Lexapro?) in the water, because PJ Fleck and his Rowing Sissies will be simultaneously sucking ass.
 
ThunderHawk said:
Fleck is indeed the paragon of grifting douchebaggery. What a self-serving asshole. IOWA ain't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but even Buyout Barta would balk at slapping some douchebag coach's lameass trademark on a football helmet.
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Yeah, what's next? A paddle adorning the midfield stripe?

Cheerleaders dressed like rear admirals?

The school song changed to the theme from Gilligan's Island?

If this guy ever goes 6-6 at Minnesota he will think he invented football.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
Lots of truth in the above. Minnesotans are an odd bunch.
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Having lived here for 14 years....I would somewhat agree. Maybe stated better 'MN is an odd state'. Can't sell liquor in a grocery store.....stupid HS football playoff system where EVERY team gets in.....in HS basketball, the home team wears DARK uni's......liberals in the TC's run the whole state.....the list goes on.

I'll be moving back to the motherland at some point.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Yeah, what's next? A paddle adorning the midfield stripe?

Cheerleaders dressed like rear admirals?

The school song changed to the theme from Gilligan's Island?

If this guy ever goes 6-6 at Minnesota he will think he invented football.
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This asshole left his wife, the mother of his 4 children (they had 5, one tragically died) for a stripper. A STRIPPER. I'm not making this up.

Meanwhile, Kurt and Mary donate boatloads of cash to the U and the the Childrens' Hospital. Sure, Kurt abuses that sugar free Hubba Bubba and has clock management issues, but he ain't banging strippers and ditching his wife.

I'll take our arrangement. Fleck is such a blatant, brazen scumbag that he's almost parody-proof.
 
HawksMN said:
Having lived here for 14 years....I would somewhat agree. Maybe stated better 'MN is an odd state'. Can't sell liquor in a grocery store.....stupid HS football playoff system where EVERY team gets in.....in HS basketball, the home team wears DARK uni's......liberals in the TC's run the whole state.....the list goes on.

I'll be moving back to the motherland at some point.
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Hell, they voted Jesse Ventura into the gubernatorial office.

Look what they started. Including Trump, I will bet half of our next ten presidents will be famous in fields other than politics.
 
ThunderHawk said:
This asshole left his wife, the mother of his 4 children (they had 5, one tragically died) for a stripper. A STRIPPER. I'm not making this up.

Meanwhile, Kurt and Mary donate boatloads of cash to the U and the the Childrens' Hospital. Sure, Kurt abuses that sugar free Hubba Bubba and has clock management issues, but he ain't banging strippers and ditching his wife.

I'll take our arrangement. Fleck is such a blatant, brazen scumbag that he's almost parody-proof.
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The before/after spousal choices were shown and discussed on a thread when he took the job. At least one poster nicknamed her "wicked devil chin".

Facelifts and boob-jobs were only the beginning of the story.
 
HawksMN said:
Having lived here for 14 years....I would somewhat agree. Maybe stated better 'MN is an odd state'. Can't sell liquor in a grocery store.....stupid HS football playoff system where EVERY team gets in.....in HS basketball, the home team wears DARK uni's......liberals in the TC's run the whole state.....the list goes on.

I'll be moving back to the motherland at some point.
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Why in the hell do they even have a regular season?

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This is a highly entertaining thread. One of the best in quite a while.....

Now I have to start giving likes all over the place.....

Really good to see Ken and Thunder back.....

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mopkins said:
Well they went to the U and watch all their games, but they have so many other options to choose from. In Iowa if the Hawks suck its a long winter of us living and dying with every game. That's not the reality up here. When the Gophers suck it just doesn't matter as much to them because they still have the Wild, the Vikings and to some extent the Timberwolves.
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And walleye fishing through the ice.
 
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