okeefe4prez
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You never know, that might not be a mediocre game.
Gophers need to row harder
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The 750k for ISU was for full cost of attendance scholarships for all sports because that's how it works.Let's just be honest about it - there is plenty of money to pay players. I know nice facilities are great, but if you ask any one of the guys or ladies suiting up, I'm sure they'd take the cash.
If we're going to go down that road, why make them go to class at all? We could be SEC north.
WinOneThisCentury
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Listen...I get selling your new coach...but why is he out front on all the marketing materials. I'm sorry, but he strikes me as a tool. I could see it in year one, but year two, maybe he should take a step into the background and sell your top players. Wait...does Minnesota have any top players?
hawkeyebob62
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hawkdrummer1
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Too much clone gear up here for my liking. Apparently the short drive up or down I-35 draws them to the Twin Cities or from here to there for school. Interestingly enough, that's a pretty good measure for how disconnected many are up here from college football. I bump into people all the time who don't know the diff between IOWA (who's a Big Ten rival) and ISMoo
I still don't understand why the Gophers put a f'ing OAR on their helmet? It makes zero sense and looks so completely stupid
Imagine if Ferentz put a rock breaking on the Hawkeye's helmet because his motto is "break the rock". Hawkeye fans would revolt.
Yes it does look stupid. In Minnesota's defense, they change their jersey/helmet design all the time so at some point you run out of things to do and just adopt your coach's mantra as your helmet design. Next season will probably be a boat design. Gay pirate ship maybe???
Its times like these when I remind myself how lucky I am to be an Iowa fan. Yeah we have our bad moments as well but under Fry and Ferentz this shit would never fly. Iowa might have had some bad teams, but they've never completely lost respect for themselves like this.
okeefe4prez
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I still don't understand why the Gophers put a f'ing OAR on their helmet? It makes zero sense and looks so completely stupid
Imagine if Ferentz put a rock breaking on the Hawkeye's helmet because his motto is "break the rock". Hawkeye fans would revolt.
Here's the deal that I heard. Fleck owns the trademark on the phrase "Row The Boat" through his agent. It was originally owned by Western Michigan, but he got them to transfer it. He then licensed it to Minnesota for them to put on shirts and gear. He gets a license fee but he supposedly transfers the license fee to charity (of course I'd bet he still takes the tax break for the charitable contribution).
So of course, he's trying to make the phrase his big thing. To commercialize a phrase like that and license it to the school (where it will become a laughingstock after he gets fired or leaves if through some miracle he gets a better job) is probably the pinnacle of douchebaggery among D-1 coaches, and that's really saying something. I just can't believe the powers that be at Minnesota could look at their football traditions like the Little Brown Jug, Floyd of Rosedale and the Paul Bunyan Axe, not to mention their storied history (albeit somewhat dated) and then let some charlatan outsider with absolutely no connection to the state or school change their branding. It's really unbelievable.
judzeehawk
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The goofers should change the oar for a row boat with a player sitting in it bailing water.
Northside Hawk
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Probably Seattle as well. Possibly Atlanta and Phoenix.
hawkeyebob62
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Not Seattle. Football is too competitive and capitalistic.
Ree4
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When Hayden Fry and the CR marketing company (can't remember the name) first came up with the tiger hawk they owned the licensing and sold some merch before they donated the design to the University.
https://www.thegazette.com/2009/08/30/c-r-art-director-man-behind-the-logo
kicker22
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Just my two cents...
(1) At first glance I thought the oar looked like a beer bottle.
(2) what kind of idiot at the patent office gives a guy rights to "row the boat". Any chance a lucky hawk fan could get rights to "Fleck's a tool" or "Gophers suck". What an absolute moron.
(1) At first glance I thought the oar looked like a beer bottle.
(2) what kind of idiot at the patent office gives a guy rights to "row the boat". Any chance a lucky hawk fan could get rights to "Fleck's a tool" or "Gophers suck". What an absolute moron.
kicker22
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Sounds as intimidating as "row, row, row your boat"...which I would not be opposed to chanting at them while they pout on game day.
hawkdrummer1
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Not so sure about that. They had back to back 8-4 seasons in 2013 and 2014 and averaged 47,735 at home in 2014 without a single sell out. They went 9-4 in 2016 and attendance was even lower, averaging 43,809. If you go back to 2003 when they went 10-3 under Glen Mason (who they should have never fired) they averaged just over 44,000 in the Humpty Dome. They just don't have much of a fan base... period. Moving to the Metrodome killed the program.
You want an idea how fickle their "fans" are? They drew 62,000 when #20 Michigan came to town that year under Mason. Leading 28-7, they gave up 31 4th quarter points to lose. The next week #15 ranked Michigan State came to town and only 38,000 showed up. Talk about fair weather.
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okeefe4prez
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Good points. There is just something off about Minneapolis. They have this massive hardon about being a big city in the same vein as San Fran, NY or Chicago but the town is basically just a giant freeway that is uninhabitable from October through April. They have this total look at me concept to see how hard they can virtue signal and it devolves into stupid shit like "we had the first transgender woman of color water department chief." Their heads are so far up their own asses that it's just really, really strange.
Those are not the kind of people that are gonna turn out in major numbers for outdoor football games. Don't get me wrong, Madison and Iowa City have their shares of liberal loons, but my guess is that the normal people who might live an hour or two from Minneapolis who a probably otherwise Gopher fans think to themselves "there is no way in hell I'm going to drive 2 hours and sit in traffic to visit that shithole city to watch a football game." Not a lot of people want to trudge through city traffic on a Saturday afternoon to watch college football.
hawkdrummer1
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Lots of truth in the above. Minnesotans are an odd bunch.
