DexterMorgan
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McNutt at PR keeps me up at night. I can't imagine that being a good idea.
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Depth is VERY unproven, McNutt and Davis are the only proven players out there. Nordman is the only other WR that has game time experience with only 2 catches. With McNutt having lingering injury problems and taking punt returns, WR position scares me the most.
tm3308
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Not only does he seem to have the ideal physical skill set for the position, he also gives us an option that wouldn't be an immediate impact if he were to get hurt (unlike McNutt).
The only negative thing I see with Canzeri getting time at PR is hes a true freshman. Playing at Penn State and Nebraska isn't going to be easy for someone coming straight out of high school.
My apologies I thought he was a JR.
homerHAWKeye777
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I'm sure that Cooper is being told to prepare like he's going to play this fall. In other words, don't come into summer camp with bad weight and being out of shape. Keenan Davis and Brandon Wegher were told to prepare like they were going to prepare to play as FR ... and they both proved that they were ready and consequently earned early action. I expect that Cooper will be given a similar opportunity.
HawkinGoferLand
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I know MM was listed on PR on recent depth chart, but I gotta believe the only way he actually returns punts is if we have no other viable options. PR under KF just means catch the damn ball
and less about advancing the kick.homerHAWKeye777
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The better the starters .... the tougher the decision to pull them. Many folks might not agree with this ... but a tired Clayborn or Klug were still better than the guys backing them up. Clayborn and Klug are given the freedom to come off the field if they need a break ... but they didn't request it.
In seasons when our guys on the DL are either a bit on the newbie side OR when the talent level isn't quite where we'd ideally want it ... the coaches have rotated guys in more frequently.
Overall though, I think that folks would find that we played more guys than they remember.
In 2005, when we were incredibly young/inexperienced, the coaches rotated Willcox, King, Kroul, and Bain at DT and they rotated Mattison, Iwebema, Kanellis, and Follet at DE. And it was a pretty active rotation too.
In 2006, we got hit quite a bit by the injury bug on the DL (both King and Iwebema got hit with pretty significant injuries) ... and we pretty actively rotated King, Kroul, Ewen, and Bain at DT and Mattison, Iwebema, and Kanellis.
In 2007, we had a good number of guys see action too. At DT we were hurting a bit with regard to depth ... primarily only playing King and Kroul. However, at DE, we played Mattison, Iwebema, Clayborn, Ballard, and Geary. My suspicion is that Iwebema was a bit dinged that season ... so we relied upon rotating guys a good bit over at his spot.
In 2008, we primarily played King and Kroul at DT, however, Klug also received some quality minutes too. Furthermore, Daniels even earned some time spelling King. At DE, Clayborn and Ballard played most of the time, however, Geary and Binns also saw a bit of action too.
Admittedly in '09 and '10, we really didn't rotate too much past 5 or 6 guys.
dmShortSaledude
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I highly doubt (hope) that 195 lbs is correct. He has definitely gained weight since the end of last summer. All of them have, if needed. For example, James Morris is listed at 215 lbs. He was quoted last week, as saying he has gained 7 lbs since the bowl game, and is up to 227 lbs. Twelve pounds heavier than last registered at summer camp(with his ideal playing weight set at 232 lbs, which he will make by fall I would wager).
That said, Kirksey has to be heavier. How much more??? We will most likely find out at the end of summer... Unless someone asks on Saturday. Jon?
Back to Morris. 227 lbs!?! Sweet! He will definitely get to 232 lbs by fall. Couple that with added experience and he should be a very solid B1G LBer!
cmhawks99
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Well as I said earlier, I will stop just short of guaranteeing Kirksey and Hitchens are both at least 215 right now if not more. They are listed higher elsewhere.
Chad
HawkPhreek
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Going to guess no way a true Freshman returns punts for KF. I love how the coaches run the kids out there and automatically someone knows that guys is to small. Out of all the great things in that post the one thing fans find is that guy is to little. As far as the Dline as tired as they looked at times it wouldn't surprise me to see more rotation.
tm3308
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I know he wasn't a true freshman, but Hinkel did return for us as a redshirt freshman.
hawkfan2679
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Keenan Davis returned exactly 1 punt 2 years ago...he fumbled it and hasn't seen the depth chart as a punt returner since.
/going from memory...Trick or Treat in Iowa City 2009?
tm3308
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There. If Canzeri proves himself to be reliable catching the ball, then I don't see why KF won't plug him in back there.
Hawkfromnorwalk
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KR is going to be interesting this year. Last year is was DJK and Davis but that was acceptable because we had such a deep list of receivers that it wasn't a big deal. DJK, McNutt, Sandeman, Cheney, Davis, and even Nordman were back there in case there were injury issues. This year, we are nowhere near as deep at that position, same thing with RB, so I can see where this year we may have to use incoming freshman to handle kickoffs just to keep the experienced guys out of harms way. I for one would like to see a crafty fellow like Canzeri back there, or even Hyde for that matter, although we can't risk losing Hyde either.
rmsutherland
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Never been a fan of playing your top WR's or RB back on Kickoffs or Punt Returns. Too risky. We don't have the depth to overcome one of our big guys getting injured.
lightning1
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I dont understand the problem with FR returning kicks or punts.
Is the football shaped differently from high school to college?
I started returning punts in 5th grade. Metro Youth FB.
Its not like some body sprinkles pixie dust on you and you forgot how to catch a punted football, as soon as you get to college.
You have a smaller window to make the right decision. Thats it.
Is the football shaped differently from high school to college?
I started returning punts in 5th grade. Metro Youth FB.
Its not like some body sprinkles pixie dust on you and you forgot how to catch a punted football, as soon as you get to college.
You have a smaller window to make the right decision. Thats it.
deanvogs
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I agree with what you are saying.....I'm sure the coaching staff looks at it more like FR are prone to FR mistakes. It is such a back breaker to the Iowa team to have miscues on special teams. Like the blocked punt in Arizona, or missed PAT's, FG, etc. Let alone if you mixed in fumbled/muffed punts.
I just think the Kirk trust the experience and the type of judgement that comes from upperclassmen is all. I'm not saying I agree in every case, but in most cases I am fine with it.
