Get out of my championship, Butler.

I understand what the OP is getting at but I'll take a different route. I will not be tuning in tonight because I know that Butler v. Duke is not a "national championship" game but instead the ncaa tournament championship game. Say what you will about the BCS but it always gets 2/3 or 2/4 of the best teams throughout the season in its "championship" game. I dont think anyone here can say that Butler and Duke were two of the top teams all season long. But thats the luck of a one and done tourney. Thank goodness for 24 tonight.
 
tm3308 said:
Right, and Duke played who? Everybody said that they had a pretty easy road to the Final Four, too. Obviously, they draw a 16 seed. Then they get 9 seed Cal. In the Sweet Sixteen they play a tired and Robbie Hummel-less Purdue team. They played two legit teams, Baylor and WVU.

Duke's road may have been a little tougher, but it wasn't like they played in the Midwest Region. They were set up to make a run like this. Butler has caught some breaks, but that's how it goes, and how it should be. I'd much rather see a team like Butler get in than ALWAYS seeing UNC, Duke, MSU, UCLA, Kansas, etc. in the Final Four. It gets old. If there's no ultimate uncertainty, than there's no Madness at all.
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Duke's road to the final four was easier than Butler's, actually you could argue that Butler had the most difficult road to the final four out of any team out there. Michigan St didn't play a team seeded higher than 4th, West Virginia played three double digit seeds than Kentucky. Butler had the toughest first round opponent, UTEP, plus played the one and two seeds in their region. They did not just luck into the final four, they beat plenty of solid teams.
 
GrangerHawki07 said:
I understand what the OP is getting at but I'll take a different route. I will not be tuning in tonight because I know that Butler v. Duke is not a "national championship" game but instead the ncaa tournament championship game. Say what you will about the BCS but it always gets 2/3 or 2/4 of the best teams throughout the season in its "championship" game. I dont think anyone here can say that Butler and Duke were two of the top teams all season long. But thats the luck of a one and done tourney. Thank goodness for 24 tonight.
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Yeah I'd much rather have computers decide who the top teams are rather than have it settled through an actual game. Syracuse was one of the top teams all year, Butler beat them on a neutral court. Kentucky was one of the top teams all year, West Virginia handled them fairly easy and then got crushed by Duke. Duke was a one seed, which means they were obviously one of the top teams all season, so you're argument is worthless.
 
GodGodGodBathia said:
Butler had a great season and was a great team, but in the final game of the NCAA tournament I want a power vs. a power, or a quality matchup, not some power like Duke vs. a mid major like Butler that injuried its way into the final game. Seriously, they had the easiest road to get there out of anyone in the tournament. They played Syracuse who has a history of choking and wasn't playing with Onuaku, they played KState who was obviously tired and playing on pure adrenaline because of their game with Xavier, and then played Michigan State who wasn't that good to begin with, especially playing without Kalin Lucas. Not to mention that these games are taking place 6 miles from their campus, which is a factor that shouldn't contribute to their success but probably gives them the confidence to beat a team like Michigan State and ruin the final for the rest of the nation. I'll take Duke by 20.
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Seems to me that Duke had as easy a route as Butler ; and anytime you have to play a number one seed , I hardly call that an easy route . Give Butler some credit ; they haven't lost a game in a long time. Pesronally i think your post holds little water . They call it March Madness for a reason .
 
Mike23, I'm not pushing the BCS, I despise it like everyone else. Duke and Butler won their tournament games not taking that away from them. I cant qualify Butler as a season long top tier team when they are beating the Cleveland and Wright States of the world night in and night out. They did win the right 5 in a row though. I thought this was the Duke team everyone thought was undeserving of a 1 seed. Apparently the committee got that right and Duke did what they were supposed to. Maybe Duke not dominating the way other Duke teams have in the past and they seem to only have 3 guys capable of scoring make me overlook them. I'll just call tonight what it is, a tournament championship game and if you like to look at it like a national championship more power to you.
 
GrangerHawk,

First off, Butler has won the right 25 games in a row, not 5. They are the only team to win all of their conference games. There are plenty of bad conferences out there, but still only one team managed to beat all of those teams. Butler is a good basketball team and you are short-changing them because they aren't from a power conference.

Also, Duke doesn't just only have three guys that can score, they have three guys that can put up twenty points a night. They have three guys on the floor almost all the time that are very capable shooters and slashers. What other teams can say that?

This game might be better than you are expecting. It is to determine who the National Champion is. No one cares anymore that a bunch of one-and-dones got a bunch of wins for kentucky.
 
AZmess said:
Sad.
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I wanted to clarify my comments on why I will be rooting for Duke. First, I guess I don't really hate Duke. I normally root against Duke because I like to see someone else win. However, I don't really have anything against a team that graduates its players and doesn't get in trouble.

And maybe when I said I resented Butler's success it sounded like I have some huge vendetta against them. I don't. I am just tired of hearing about how great "the Butler way" is. I doubt I am in the minority in that regard. We heard it for 3 years while we were absolutely horrible. We hear it any time Butler is on TV, and we have been hearing it a ton now. I understand the Butler players have no control over this, but it bothers me nonetheless. Just like plenty of people here get sick of hearing about how great Duke is when the Duke players have no control over that.

I don't see how my reasoning is any less valid then anybody else's.
 
Butler has been a very good team all year, I'd respond further if I thought you were serious but I know you're for some reason just trying to get a rise out of people.

Nobody is as stupid as you're pretending to be.
 
LG210 said:
I didn't think the officiating decided the outcome. Did I miss something?
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only about 75% of "questionable calls" went Duke's way. Oh, and if you didn't notice they NEVER called a foul on Duke in the first half when a Butler player got within 5 feet of the basket, no matter how badly he was hacked.
 
I'd say the foul I had the biggest problem with was Hayward's charge call. But when you think back there was probably a 50/50 call that went Butler for a block call.
 
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