Gameday Chances for CyHawk Game
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WinOneThisCentury
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Does anyone think it would be a good thing if Gameday were at Jack Trice? That fan base is so delusional that it would erase the last 50 years from their memory. Fact of the matter...the best coach they may have ever had, still hasn't beaten KF.
I think next year's game is going to be a dogfight...but I still think we win the game.
I think next year's game is going to be a dogfight...but I still think we win the game.
Denverhawk1
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Yep. Except nobody outside of Iowa ties cares about the game. Regardless, still nowhere near enough national attention for gameday.
mopkins
King Kong
You're not wrong, but an early week 3 game vs ranked teams will usually draw eyeballs regardless.
People watch it, but it doesn't exactly have a reputation for good football.
El Assico! Is the nickname for it in the blogsphere.
Who east of California pays attention to Cal / Stanford? I'd rather mow the lawn.
hawkdrummer1
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Exactly. and, No.
Fryowa
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You guys don’t realize that 90% of the country doesn’t know the difference between Iowa and Ohio.
And do you really want to see Lee Corso going full-Alzheimer’s on national TV talking about the Hawkeyes? If the last 5 years’ progression is any indicator, by next fall he’ll be throwing poop at Herbstreit, alternating between F-bombs and crying, accusing the camera guy of stealing his baby, and wandering around looking for his shoe that he happens to be wearing.
GameDay is crap. People bitch about the humaneness and ethics of zoos, yet they’re totally fine parading a guy on national TV every Saturday who is clearly DEEP into dementia and can’t make a complete sentence—all for chuckles because the guy has completely lost his football marbles, and at that point what is the guy on a football show for? I like most of that crew as a whole, but bringing Corso up on that stage like a pony for a bunch of hosts to laugh at is the saddest shit in sports.
You wouldn't bring Michael J. Fox on stage and laugh at him for falling down or shaking, etc. How is it any different than Corso getting thrown up there when he's so far gone that he doesn't know people are laughing at his incoherence and not because he's actually funny?
And do you really want to see Lee Corso going full-Alzheimer’s on national TV talking about the Hawkeyes? If the last 5 years’ progression is any indicator, by next fall he’ll be throwing poop at Herbstreit, alternating between F-bombs and crying, accusing the camera guy of stealing his baby, and wandering around looking for his shoe that he happens to be wearing.
GameDay is crap. People bitch about the humaneness and ethics of zoos, yet they’re totally fine parading a guy on national TV every Saturday who is clearly DEEP into dementia and can’t make a complete sentence—all for chuckles because the guy has completely lost his football marbles, and at that point what is the guy on a football show for? I like most of that crew as a whole, but bringing Corso up on that stage like a pony for a bunch of hosts to laugh at is the saddest shit in sports.
You wouldn't bring Michael J. Fox on stage and laugh at him for falling down or shaking, etc. How is it any different than Corso getting thrown up there when he's so far gone that he doesn't know people are laughing at his incoherence and not because he's actually funny?
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Chickenlounge
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Sometimes I just have to sit back and marvel at your descriptions. I'm guessing you excelled in Creative Writing class in school?
Fryowa
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I don't remember, but probably not.Sometimes I just have to sit back and marvel at your descriptions. I'm guessing you excelled in Creative Writing class in school?
I grew up in NW Iowa, and the same guy who taught comp, creative writing, and American lit. in my high school was a hard core Dutch Christian Reformer. Even came from Orange City originally. He taught American Lit according to what he thought was good material. We spent weeks on The Red Badge Of Courage and all it's "Christian symbolism" (I remember one class he spent the whole period waxing poetic about how Stephen Crane named his character Jim Conklin because the initials were JC). And how Crane used the phrase "hot plowshares" to describe a battle field, which he got from the bible. And on and on and on and on. That may be, but I don't give a hot damn.
We never read Steinbeck/Hemingway, etc because those guys were atheists and communists and probably killed babies. Luckily my brain never got washed by all the CR zombies and I read all of that stuff on my own.
Anywho, to answer your question, my teacher and I weren't on the same wavelength so although I don't remember my grades, they probably were mediocre.
While I agree that watching Gameday is hard because Corso is still on it, the choice is his alone and I have to give ESPN credit. Most employers would not hurt their product for the sake of a guy who has suffered a stroke. They'd buy out the contract and be done with it. Maybe they should in this case but that's not what Corso wants. He wants to be on that show and is very grateful to ESPN for not firing him.
Fryowa
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Hurt their product? The reason they keep him going is because people tune into that show to see what shit show he's bringing with him that particular day.
He wants to be on Gameday because he thinks people genuinely think he's funny and that he brings football insight.
He's too far mentally gone to realize that the real reason is people laugh at him is because he has lost impulse control (F-bombs, etc.), stutters and stumbles through dialogue that don't make any sense, and says completely off the wall things not related to anything to do with football or the show. It's a non-sequiter fest and you can see every time on his face when he loses his thoughts and then he just blurts out some random words.
Corso is a running gag and it's totally at his expense, and ESPN facilitates it for ratings. Again, no one wants to answer my question...what would people say if they carted Michael J Fox on stage so people could laugh at him doing the Parkinson's watusi? Corso is the same thing.
And ESPN doesn't have to "fire" him. How about sitting the guy down in private and telling him that they're concerned for his health and not renewing his contract. They'd be doing it out of respect, not the other way around. Would you want your dad out there getting laughed at when he doesn't know why they're really laughing? I'd bet not.
Hey I can't argue with a lot of what you're saying. If I were in charge of that show, he wouldn't be on it.
And hell no I wouldn't want my father out there making a fool of himself. But he wants to be out there on that show and ESPN lets him. Maybe to their benefit, maybe not. Personally, I tune out when he's on because its heartbreaking to watch a once clever, funny guy stumble all over himself with a lost look on his face.
But as you said, maybe they're simply taking advantage of him and he doesn't know it. To me it seems he desperately wants to stay on the show.
He absolutely does. I think a few times over the last few seasons he's teared up on camera claiming how grateful he was to still be involved after his stroke. It can be a little painful to watch at times, but if he loves what he's doing and doesn't mind, does it matter?
Even at 90 years old and dealing with post stroke symptoms, he still contributes more than pollack and Desmond Howard.
I don’t understand why ESPN doesn’t use people like Greg McElroy, Marcus Spears or one of the 8 retired coaches they have providing color commentary to games.
guffus
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Thank you. I think you just helped me figure out why another old guy, that is a famous public figure that has been in the news a lot, is so popular. Which is something I have been struggling to figure out.
Fryowa
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That guy is drifting farther and farther away from being in tune with the Hawkeyes the longer he’s gone. You can hear it in his podcasts that he doesn’t care as much as he used to and honestly, I guess it’s no big deal. I’d probably get bored with that stuff too after however many years.
In reality he’s probably more of a typical Iowa fan than we are. The people who post here regularly are pretty rabid about Iowa sports and get super fired up about the topics whether they’re homers or debbies. Things get emotional sometimes and Miller doesn’t have that in him in my opinion. He’s alluded to it in the recent past on his podcasts how he doesn’t take it too serious anymore.
Fryowa
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The politics can go right over there in the garbage can. You can pick ‘em up and take ‘em with you when you leave. Nobody here wants to smell it.
