Freeman named starter

ChosenChildren said:
I’m not going to single out individual players, but this is what I see:

1. A very, very young team with very little athleticism when compared to the rest of the Big Ten. A middling Michigan team destroyed them. Fran simply is not recruiting enough quick , big ten ready athletes.
2. No real leaders.
3. No defensive intensity (Fran talked about it post game).

This is Fran’s FOURTEENTH year, but he has no Weiskamp, Garza, Bohannon or Murray to lead the team.

Isn’t it time to retire? Seriously, isn’t it? It feels like Iowa is starting over. Why not start over with a young, energetic coach?

I like Fran but what is the up side now? There are a bunch of great young coaches out there, including an excellent young coach at Drake.

Am I missing something? Enlighten me please. It just seems like he is mailing it in now by recruiting average players close to home.
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He just had a NPOY candidate for 4 straight seasons and this years Freshman class looks like maybe one of his best classes to date. Next season has two top 100 kids signed. The Murrays left with eligibilty left. Joe Weiskamp left with eligibility left. Tyler Cook left with eleigibility left. At what point has Iowa basketball ever been in a position to obsorb that sort of attrition from it's top players every year? It doesn't matter if it was his 14th year or his 4th, Iowa is not a basketball program that just reloads and never has been. Think about Davis, Raveling, Lute.... did they all lose their best players to the NBA a year early? Could guys just transfer out to play for KS or KY if they played above their star level?

Average players close to home? Do you mean the IL Mr. Basketball when IL is a better program then us currently? Or Peyton Sandfort, who literally every school around here wanted.

Take it easy is all I am saying. Fran has done wonders and did it all while having almost no NIL or fan support from a fan base that literally doesn't give a shit. Iowa should consider itself lucky to retain a guy this good at what he does for this long.
 
InGoodCo said:
He just had a NPOY candidate for 4 straight seasons and this years Freshman class looks like maybe one of his best classes to date. Next season has two top 100 kids signed. The Murrays left with eligibilty left. Joe Weiskamp left with eligibility left. Tyler Cook left with eleigibility left. At what point has Iowa basketball ever been in a position to obsorb that sort of attrition from it's top players every year? It doesn't matter if it was his 14th year or his 4th, Iowa is not a basketball program that just reloads and never has been. Think about Davis, Raveling, Lute.... did they all lose their best players to the NBA a year early? Could guys just transfer out to play for KS or KY if they played above their star level?

Average players close to home? Do you mean the IL Mr. Basketball when IL is a better program then us currently? Or Peyton Sandfort, who literally every school around here wanted.

Take it easy is all I am saying. Fran has done wonders and did it all while having almost no NIL or fan support from a fan base that literally doesn't give a shit. Iowa should consider itself lucky to retain a guy this good at what he does for this long.
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we will see. Lots of big games ahead.
 
ChosenChildren said:
I’m not going to single out individual players, but this is what I see:

1. A very, very young team with very little athleticism when compared to the rest of the Big Ten. A middling Michigan team destroyed them. Fran simply is not recruiting enough quick , big ten ready athletes.
2. No real leaders.
3. No defensive intensity (Fran talked about it post game).

This is Fran’s FOURTEENTH year, but he has no Weiskamp, Garza, Bohannon or Murray to lead the team.

Isn’t it time to retire? Seriously, isn’t it? It feels like Iowa is starting over. Why not start over with a young, energetic coach?

I like Fran but what is the up side now? There are a bunch of great young coaches out there, including an excellent young coach at Drake.

Am I missing something? Enlighten me please. It just seems like he is mailing it in now by recruiting average players close to home.
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Fran looked tired and grouchy in that post game on court with Settles. He was interrupting Jess questions before he could finish them, vehemently expressed his displeasure with the D, didn't even mention the unbelievable 33-4 assist to turnover ratio or Harding's effort that went a long way toward those stats.

I'm sure rhe off the court issues with his youngest son's accident haven't helped but Fran looked like he'd already put in a full season-and it's only December.

You know what would help everyone's cause right now? A nice beat down of Bucky on January 2nd. Do that and it could turn the whole season. Just have to be ready for all the bumping and grabbing and hand checking they do.
 
ChosenChildren said:
We beat a team tonight ranked 327 by Pomeroy. Let’s see how they do against Wisconsin.

Perkins is a fine player. I certainly agree with that.
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If you can’t defend, you cannot win in the Big Ten. We aren’t defending against the good teams so far. Is that lack of effort? Possibly. Or is it lack of quickness and athleticism? I think it is.

My playlist is pretty simple. I don’t think we will win more than 8 games in the Big Ten this year. It’s Fran’s 14th year.

I certainly hope I’m wrong.

i watch every game and have been doing so for 60 years.

You believe that he is recruiting Big ten caliber players who can play winning basketball. I’m not so sure anymore.

I sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong.
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The numbers say you are entirely wrong.

2019 23-12/11-9 5th place (upper division of Big Ten) NCAA
2020 20-20/11-9 6 th place (upper division of Big Ten) qualified had a tournament been played.
2021 22-9/14-6 3rd place BTT winner.
2022 25-9/12-8 5th place
2023 19/14-11/9 5th place

Finishing in the upper half-last five seasons means Fran is recruiting players and coaching them well enough to play winning conference seasons. It's kind of the operational definition of Big Ten caliber athletes playing winning BBall in the Big Ten.

This year's team features the Iowa's top ranked recruits since Cordell, Jordan and Tyler Cook all arrived, so like the preceding 5 years. It's just a weird transitional season where there's too much inexperience among the more naturally talented players.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Fran looked tired and grouchy in that post game on court with Settles. He was interrupting Jess questions before he could finish them, vehemently expressed his displeasure with the D, didn't even mention the unbelievable 33-4 assist to turnover ratio or Harding's effort that went a long way toward those stats.

I'm sure rhe off the court issues with his youngest son's accident haven't helped but Fran looked like he'd already put in a full season-and it's only December.

You know what would help everyone's cause right now? A nice beat down of Bucky on January 2nd. Do that and it could turn the whole season. Just have to be ready for all the bumping and grabbing and hand checking they do.
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We'd have to search pretty hard to find a postgame when FMc isn't pissed, although he did seem unusually pissy last night.
 
Teddy said:
The numbers say you are entirely wrong.

2019 23-12/11-9 5th place (upper division of Big Ten) NCAA
2020 20-20/11-9 6 th place (upper division of Big Ten) qualified had a tournament been played.
2021 22-9/14-6 3rd place BTT winner.
2022 25-9/12-8 5th place
2023 19/14-11/9 5th place

Finishing in the upper half-last five seasons means Fran is recruiting players and coaching them well enough to play winning conference seasons. It's kind of the operational definition of Big Ten caliber athletes playing winning BBall in the Big Ten.

This year's team features the Iowa's top ranked recruits since Cordell, Jordan and Tyler Cook all arrived, so like the preceding 5 years. It's just a weird transitional season where there's too much inexperience among the more naturally talented players.
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I’ll be very happy to be wrong. I root for Iowa and I graduated from the school.

I just see a huge talent gap right now. Hope I am wrong
 
Northside Hawk said:
You know what would help everyone's cause right now? A nice beat down of Bucky on January 2nd. Do that and it could turn the whole season. Just have to be ready for all the bumping and grabbing and hand checking they do.
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Bucky still include nut busting in their defensive philosophy?
 
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