Frans first interview since being let go

BigD said:
Hey Fran, there may be an opening at Drake soon.
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That's actually an interesting idea. There is precedent there. Drake did hire Mr. Davis Davis after Iowa let him go, and Davis used that position to get Drake to hire his son, Keno Davis, as his replacement.

Fran may want to set up a similar package deal wherever he goes. Fran takes over as head coach for a couple of years with his son Conner the designated head coach in waiting. If it's Drake, Conner ends up living in Des Moines, which would make Caitlin very happy.
 
I hate Tom Izzo with a passion. But the guy’s been in the game along time and the results speak for themselves. Remember when a couple wells ago he said, “They don’t have the resources. Watch what you wish for.”

Welp, surprise surprise.
 
Fryowa said:
I hate Tom Izzo with a passion. But the guy’s been in the game along time and the results speak for themselves. Remember when a couple wells ago he said, “They don’t have the resources. Watch what you wish for.”

Welp, surprise surprise.
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I am a little dubious when it comes to Izzo. He said something similar when Lickliter and other B1G coaches were let go.

He happens to be right in this particular case, but it feels a little disingenuous to me.
 
guffus said:
That's actually an interesting idea. There is precedent there. Drake did hire Mr. Davis Davis after Iowa let him go, and Davis used that position to get Drake to hire his son, Keno Davis, as his replacement.

Fran may want to set up a similar package deal wherever he goes. Fran takes over as head coach for a couple of years with his son Conner the designated head coach in waiting. If it's Drake, Conner ends up living in Des Moines, which would make Caitlin very happy.
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Keep an eye on Butler. Thad Matta has struggled on his return and has a history of health issues.
 
trj said:
I am a little dubious when it comes to Izzo. He said something similar when Lickliter and other B1G coaches were let go.

He happens to be right in this particular case, but it feels a little disingenuous to me.
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Trust your gut... He likes that throne he's been on and he knows Fran/Iowa wasn't any kind of threat to him. In big picture for sure Iowa isn't and only occasionally in the small picture. We've beaten them here and there but so what. They do more in March consistently it's just that simple.
 
trj said:
I am a little dubious when it comes to Izzo. He said something similar when Lickliter and other B1G coaches were let go.

He happens to be right in this particular case, but it feels a little disingenuous to me.
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I was talking more the "resources" part, not the careful what you wish for part. The Iowa basketball program is broken no doubt, I just feel that Fran wasn't the main cause of it. It wouldn't matter if they kept Fran or not, until they get more money to pay players we're cooked. Next year is probably going to be worse.

Once they whiffed on DeVries that's going to scare a lot of other coaches off, and if we think DeVries isn't texting people in his coaching circle "LOL" when he found out how much salary he was dealing with we'd be idiots.

I think it's best to expect a losing record for the foreseeable future and be pleasantly surprised with a .575 record.
 
Fryowa said:
I was talking more the "resources" part, not the careful what you wish for part. The Iowa basketball program is broken no doubt, I just feel that Fran wasn't the main cause of it. It wouldn't matter if they kept Fran or not, until they get more money to pay players we're cooked. Next year is probably going to be worse.

Once they whiffed on DeVries that's going to scare a lot of other coaches off, and if we think DeVries isn't texting people in his coaching circle "LOL" when he found out how much salary he was dealing with we'd be idiots.

I think it's best to expect a losing record for the foreseeable future and be pleasantly surprised with a .575 record.
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Had Fran been back everyone pretty much assumed we were losing Freeman & Harding anyway right? Obviously Sandfort and Thelwell graduated. Dix hasn't gotten in portal yet so he's a question mark at this point. But regardless that's a lot of holes needing to be fixed and it woulda remained to be seen how Fran was gonna be able to do that.

It's both good and bad that whomever this new coach ends up being is gonna have a blown up program to work with. It'll be all his. I'd say Pryce Sandfort could be talked into coming back and Koch would be worth bringing back to see what he can turn into. Beyond that guys like Dembele, Trayore and Tadjo are a dime a dozen to find replacements for hopefully upgrades for in the portal but who freaking knows..

To expect a better yr season next yr with all this uncertainty would be a wild bet. Year one will probably be rough so buckle up folks.

Update Dix has gotten in the portal now
 
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Fryowa said:
I was talking more the "resources" part, not the careful what you wish for part. The Iowa basketball program is broken no doubt, I just feel that Fran wasn't the main cause of it. It wouldn't matter if they kept Fran or not, until they get more money to pay players we're cooked. Next year is probably going to be worse.

Once they whiffed on DeVries that's going to scare a lot of other coaches off, and if we think DeVries isn't texting people in his coaching circle "LOL" when he found out how much salary he was dealing with we'd be idiots.

I think it's best to expect a losing record for the foreseeable future and be pleasantly surprised with a .575 record.
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Yup
 
guffus said:
That's actually an interesting idea. There is precedent there. Drake did hire Mr. Davis Davis after Iowa let him go, and Davis used that position to get Drake to hire his son, Keno Davis, as his replacement.

Fran may want to set up a similar package deal wherever he goes. Fran takes over as head coach for a couple of years with his son Conner the designated head coach in waiting. If it's Drake, Conner ends up living in Des Moines, which would make Caitlin very happy.
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Except Caitlin works in Indianapolis, and Des Moines blows.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
That'd be just too slick if Fran were to just slide into that job. He'd keep Connor on staff and coach Jack. Probably give Patrick a cushy GA job. So slick I'd accuse it of being orchestrated.
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Think about it. Your assistant coach is dating the most popular basketball player under the age of 30 and she happens to play basketball in the same city.

The Butler program is rock bottom at this point…if you are the Butler AD…don’t you seriously consider it? I’m not saying Connor is Brad Stevens 2.0. I’m just saying they know what a young rock star head coach looks like, and you let his father groom him for 2-3 years for that position…don’t think it is that far fetched.
 
trj said:
Think about it. Your assistant coach is dating the most popular basketball player under the age of 30 and she happens to play basketball in the same city.

The Butler program is rock bottom at this point…if you are the Butler AD…don’t you seriously consider it? I’m not saying Connor is Brad Stevens 2.0. I’m just saying they know what a young rock star head coach looks like, and you let his father groom him for 2-3 years for that position…don’t think it is that far fetched.
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Butler totally sucked this yr so yeah every star is aligned. All I know is Fran isn't going to take another gig until he knows that isn't a possibility.

One way to make that happen if say it's just Fran and his former OSU coach buddy Matta colluding would be for him to not step down till like next fall shortly before the season starts up. All the other jobs are spoken for pretty much and it's just an odd time for a coaching search. But oh there's Fran already moved and settled into Indy just itching to go to work...

Now if the AD is in on it then all that wouldn't be necessary and they could just do it whenever. Presumably an AD would wanna do a search though. I could see Fran taking that job for sure. But should he be their 1st pick? I'm not so sure of that someone with more Butler backround would have to answer that.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Butler totally sucked this yr so yeah every star is aligned. All I know is Fran isn't going to take another gig until he knows that isn't a possibility.

One way to make that happen if say it's just Fran and his former OSU coach buddy Matta colluding would be for him to not step down till like next fall shortly before the season starts up. All the other jobs are spoken for pretty much and it's just an odd time for a coaching search. But oh there's Fran already moved and settled into Indy just itching to go to work...

Now if the AD is in on it then all that wouldn't be necessary and they could just do it whenever. Presumably an AD would wanna do a search though. I could see Fran taking that job for sure. But should he be their 1st pick? I'm not so sure of that someone with more Butler backround would have to answer that.
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Fair

It is a stretch and I am throwing shit out there.

Keep this thread in mind, if Matta steps down after the Crown.:)
 
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