Joshbrown
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How about people stop telling everyone HOW THEY'D LIKE TO LOSE.
And instead start talking about HOW THEY'D LIKE TO WIN.
What the hell has happened to our fanbase?!!??!!
Fran and the coaching staff
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How about people stop telling everyone HOW THEY'D LIKE TO LOSE.
And instead start talking about HOW THEY'D LIKE TO WIN.
What the hell has happened to our fanbase?!!??!!
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
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skinnykilmer17
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I am just not sure what to think of Fran this far in. He just can't recruit PG's or Centers. I still think you need both. The PG thing is bizarre given he was the "White Magic".
Pemsl played great on the offensive side of the ball last night and Cook is promising. But you still need a shot blocker or two who can at least somewhat control the paint.
Bohannon shot the ball well. That is promising. Moss looked good. Williams and Wagner look tentative and lost. Not sure how much they are going to progress. The rest is what it is. Jok is just a shooter. Streaky at that.
Not sure NIT is in the cards this year. Could be 6-6 in pre-conference. Will be very hard pressed to go .500 in the conference IMO.
Pemsl played great on the offensive side of the ball last night and Cook is promising. But you still need a shot blocker or two who can at least somewhat control the paint.
Bohannon shot the ball well. That is promising. Moss looked good. Williams and Wagner look tentative and lost. Not sure how much they are going to progress. The rest is what it is. Jok is just a shooter. Streaky at that.
Not sure NIT is in the cards this year. Could be 6-6 in pre-conference. Will be very hard pressed to go .500 in the conference IMO.
The point of my post was that although we should be thankful Fran brought us back from being a bottom feeder, we need to do better. And it's starting look like we never will as long as he is the coach. People say getting rid of Mr. Davis was a mistake because hey, we are Iowa and making the big dance is good enough. No, it's not. I'm not saying we should be an elite 8 team year in and year out, but we should expect to make the tournament every year, and to make some runs outside of the 2nd round once in a while. Maybe Fran can get us there, but from what I've seen, I'm starting to doubt.
HuckFinn
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OK. I will confess. I am on a real power trip and in defense of all the other BT teams, I am trying to keep Iowa from becoming a powerhouse. I think the ONLY place I can get this done is on HawkeyeNation.com. Yahoo!
-------What the hell has happened to our fanbase?!!??!!
From 1986 to around the 1996 our Dallas Metroplex Hawkeye Club would get sometimes upward of 200 people meeting to watch games...even on weeknites. For almost 20 years now we have TOTALLY disbanded our basketball watching efforts and only meet during the football season...sad, sad, sad....and pathetic!!!
Fran is a nice guy but is NOT the answer....he has had enough time for that NOT to be kneejerk reaction.
From 1986 to around the 1996 our Dallas Metroplex Hawkeye Club would get sometimes upward of 200 people meeting to watch games...even on weeknites. For almost 20 years now we have TOTALLY disbanded our basketball watching efforts and only meet during the football season...sad, sad, sad....and pathetic!!!
Fran is a nice guy but is NOT the answer....he has had enough time for that NOT to be kneejerk reaction.
If they didn't start us when we were ranked third in the nation, they probably never will.
Bigtenchamp
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Not sure who is doing the fabricating here (leaving out this years horrible numbers... which have to be really bad)
2015 defensive efficiency 76th
2014 defensive efficiency 40th
2013 defensive efficiency 60th
2012 defensive efficiency 33rd
I mean there is just good old fashion def ppg.
2015 97th
2014 56th
2013 175th
2012 68th
I'm sure I could delve into a large number of mediocre to bad defensive statistics over the past 4-5years.
Listen.. I like Fran. But his teams really don't play defense... neither did Tom Davis's teams either though.
But to sit here and say "I'm fabricating" this idea is just ignorant. Anyone with any half realistic perspective who has watched this regime knows that our defense is often suspect.
Did you watch the NCAA tourney last year when we couldn't stop anyone? or the epic collapse a couple years before when we literally couldn't win a game because we couldn't stop anyone?
C'mon brother.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Maybe InGoodCo meant top 30 in the Big Ten.
BigD
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Lol, I like root canals too.
ArvadaHawk
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I could not disagree more. We really need to be mindful of the abyss Fran walked into. We all know there were no more than 5 legit D1 players on the roster and not all of them were B1G caliber. Fran's mandate when he got to Iowa was to lock down the borders. So, he signed McCabe, Oblesby, Gessell, Woody and Uthoff transferred back. These were all 3 and 4 star kids and I'd argue only Uthoff panned out offensively. But he had no choice but to dance with who he brung.
Now, we have a lot of new talent. Very young talent. We have more very talented players in the pipeline. The one critcism of will have of Fran is his lack of securing a high end pg. But, no one can say he hasn't tried.
InGoodCo
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2016 - 30
2015 -33
2013 -25
I never said our defense hasn't been suspect - I said - Fran knows how to coach it and the #'s reflect it in 3 of the last 4 seasons.
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tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Is Craig Neal working with him again?
MiniMoeHawk
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Pretty sure Woodbury hit a buzzer beater to win and then Iowa lost to the national champions Villanova....you just not of seen the other scores they put up.
