Fran and the coaching staff

We haven't even played any of those games yet - so little early to say we won't win those games and UNI and Purdue were in lower tourney's than the NIT that season and ISU and Wisci were at home - upsets happen - THIS Iowa team will upset a few here or there too but for the most part - Iowa lost to every team worth a crap that season.
 
Bigtenchamp said:
They just don't know how to teach defense. If we are going to run and gun I'm find with that. But all of his teams but one year that I can remember... defense is a on going weakness. He just doesn't appear to know how to teach or coach it. He needs to find someone who can help him because it's an ongoing problem. This year with all the young bodies it's just sticking out way more.
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I'd also add being VERY poor at coaching the post. Virtually zero development of any offensive moves by any post player under Fran - not even the most basic drop step hook or reverse into the lane with the off hand -- NOTHING. On defense, this ridiculous hedging he has the posts do makes me just shake my head.

I'm a guy who loves a power game. While I get the game has evolved toward an emphasis on guard play, you just can't sell out to it being the end all, be all like Fran has. It's still a game of height and the need to control the lane around the rim. You can get by on competent guard play - someone with a high IQ who can direct the team, control the pace and distribute the ball. You can NOT get by without a strong post presence. Fran's lack of being able to coach reliable productivity from the post, on both ends of the floor, is shameful.
 
Lot of the problem is that whenever a team made up with a majority of underclassmen play against teams with a majority of upperclassmen, the uppers tend to win and make the unders look bad.

Unless you're Duke, Kentucky, Kansas or UNC, you're underclassmen will not get the job done on a consistent basis.
 
Bigtenchamp said:
They just don't know how to teach defense. If we are going to run and gun I'm find with that. But all of his teams but one year that I can remember... defense is a on going weakness. He just doesn't appear to know how to teach or coach it. He needs to find someone who can help him because it's an ongoing problem. This year with all the young bodies it's just sticking out way more.
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This team NEEDS to play more zone and try to use their length. Don't have the lateral quickness for consistent man to man IMO. Rebounding will suffer a bit but should help protect the rim a bit.
 
GotTimDodge said:
Hawks gonna lose 20 games this year.
I almost think Fran should leave IC before Kirk.
I cannot stand coaches who don't stress defense.
Defense wins games.
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So you were the one Licklighter fan? I'm kidding. There has to be more effort from the kids. Jordan isn't athletic or big enough to guard anyone. Jok isn't quick enough. If you can't guard wing players your just going to have a tough tough time winning games. So whether it's coaching, effort or ability of the kids Iowa's team this year is going to be in some shoot outs. I guess if I'm going to watch a team lose a lot I'd rather it be 100-92 than 56 to 48
 
Hawkfnntn said:
So you were the one Licklighter fan? I'm kidding. There has to be more effort from the kids. Jordan isn't athletic or big enough to guard anyone. Jok isn't quick enough. If you can't guard wing players your just going to have a tough tough time winning games. So whether it's coaching, effort or ability of the kids Iowa's team this year is going to be in some shoot outs. I guess if I'm going to watch a team lose a lot I'd rather it be 100-92 than 56 to 48
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I'd rather watch a lower scoring game honestly with effort defensively and I hated Lick's style but giving up a hundred is so painful. It's like having to watch 30 Big 12 football games.
 
Seriously tho...

Is anyone really gonna just sit back and have "fun" watching this season?
We keep telling ourselves that.
But it won't be fun.

Yes, I'm bitter. lol
Kirk can coach, but can't recruit.
Fran can recruit, but can't coach.

Fun.
 
Hawk5656 said:
I'd rather watch a lower scoring game honestly with effort defensively and I hated Lick's style but giving up a hundred is so painful. It's like having to watch 30 Big 12 football games.
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Hey that's you it's all good. Some people don't like pie on thanksgiving either. I think there's certainly some middle ground to be had here. I agree I lost count of how many possesions in a row Memphis scored on in a row there in the 2nd half. It had to be 10 or more. As frustrating as it is for fans imagine being a coach or player during that? I think they need to gamble more. Go for steals. Double guys and try and force things. If your not good in the half court you just have to mix it up. I don't know how much strategy will improve what they are capable of so we'll see if they mix in more zone or what..
 
GotTimDodge said:
Seriously tho...

Is anyone really gonna just sit back and have "fun" watching this season?
We keep telling ourselves that.
But it won't be fun.

Yes, I'm bitter. lol
Kirk can coach, but can't recruit.
Fran can recruit, but can't coach.

Fun.
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Fran really can't recruit that well. His 2014 and 2015 classes were massive failures and I don't know how great 2016 will end up being outside of Cook.
 
Hawk5656 said:
I'd rather watch a lower scoring game honestly with effort defensively and I hated Lick's style but giving up a hundred is so painful. It's like having to watch 30 Big 12 football games.
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I'd rather score 92 and lose than 41 and lose but the result is still an L.
 
HuckFinn said:
Gold, you need to find another hobby. You have become so predictable that you are growing very boring on this site. Iowa wins their last three football games, and you have decided that is a meaningless recovery from a disappointing season. The basketball team is made up of a bunch of guys who have absolutely no experience in BT basketball and are struggling to find an identity and you are focusing on Fran wanting his kind to play for him and that he gets in his players' faces when they are not living up to their potential. I would bet you are one of those who gets on KF's ass when he does not go off on his players when they are not doing well. Your level of common sense and knowledge of coaching is off the charts, and not in a good way.
Will wait to hear your justification on this one...
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Huck, you are calling me boring? No when I coach I take it personally and reevaluate my coaching. That's whatever ball is not an excuse. Got a feeling have do have more coaching experience than what you do.

That they won those three games to me shows how bad losing to NDSU really was. NW was bad. Wisky is just the way it turned out against a new team.
 
HawkGold said:
Huck, you are calling me boring? No when I coach I take it personally and reevaluate my coaching. That's whatever ball is not an excuse. Got a feeling have do have more coaching experience than what you do.

That they won those three games to me shows how bad losing to NDSU really was. NW was bad. Wisky is just the way it turned out against a new team.
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Just seems like you should recognize and appreciate the progress the Hawks have made after an admittedly disappointing start to the season. We are, after all, rated either 22 or 25 in the nation. Relax and enjoy, man! And, I totally agree that ndsu and nw were disasters and unexcusable.
 
For some reason, Fran is made out of Teflon...STILL waiting for his BEST team to be assembled. How many F'n years does it take? We are now rebuilding again....but rebuilding from what glorious experience exactly? ISU continually rebuilds from scratch in two years...it takes us DECADES!!!!
 
Playmaker said:
For some reason, Fran is made out of Teflon...STILL waiting for his BEST team to be assembled. How many F'n years does it take? We are now rebuilding again....but rebuilding from what glorious experience exactly? ISU continually rebuilds from scratch in two years...it takes us DECADES!!!!
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Wait 5 or 6 more games?
 
I pulled a rib muscle laughing. I just found out Hawk Gold has joined Icky as D1, top flight, know it all, and done too coaches!
 
GotTimDodge said:
Hawks gonna lose 20 games this year.
I almost think Fran should leave IC before Kirk.
I cannot stand coaches who don't stress defense.
Defense wins games.
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Barta is gonna give Fran a 48 million dollar contract to keep other teams from stealing him away.
 
DJL said:
Fran brought us back from the dead. We should forever be in his debt for that.
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This idiocy is how we got stuck with 7-win charlie.

They get paid millions to win. I'm tired of all the little girls who want to perform **** sex on the coaches. The Huck Finn crowd is holding Iowa sports back.
 
silkhawk said:
This team NEEDS to play more zone and try to use their length. Don't have the lateral quickness for consistent man to man IMO. Rebounding will suffer a bit but should help protect the rim a bit.
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Their zone is just as bad. Constantly out of position. Was last year too with a bunch of seniors
 
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