It is just too bad he is such a tool. Not lane kiffn/brian kelly bad guy tool but more of a guy you don't want to sit next to anywhere because he is loud and obnoxious type tool.
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It is just too bad he is such a tool. Not lane kiffn/brian kelly bad guy tool but more of a guy you don't want to sit next to anywhere because he is loud and obnoxious type tool.
HawkIMalaise
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Ferentz apologist. I called you out after that typical eastern Iowa crap show your favorite coach put on Saturday. I think you mean "Chip Kelly"
Hey look its the guy who disappeared for a whole year. Still struggling with life huh.
And you still are as clueless about football as always. Brian kelly is a guy who kills people and permits rape....bad guy. Chip is a football madman who is in nfl.
Of course me putting three coherent thoughts in one post will baffle you.
hawkeyebob62
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LG, not saying they would. But the sentiment on this board seems to be, "He needs to go NOW!"
If we won out and went 11-1 (I know, I know, no need to throw reality back at me
), I think there is still a hard-core group that would want him gone. They'd say the schedule was easy, still lost to a not-a-powerhouse-ISU, we'll probably lose our bowl game, etc. etc.What we saw last Saturday was depressing. I am still dumbfounded. But I am also shocked by the level of "hate" I am reading.
I didn't make any serious/concrete "predictions" in those threads because I really had no idea what to expect. Losing our 3 starting LBs, losing Van Sloten, etc.
And as much as we hear about how talented our WRs are, it still meant a new set of guys for JR.
hawkeyebob62
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I agree, I thought 2012 was pretty much a good indication that our OC and HC philosophies were not a good fit.
To KFs credit, he has not thrown GD under the bus, at least in today's press notes. There are a lot of coaches out there who would happily do so, including firing the guy.
KF sees beyond the "symptom", I think, like it or not.
hawkeyebob62
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Do you know how many BAD coaches we had after Evy left the sidelines? It's VERY possible we make a REALLY bad hire, no matter who the AD is.
That's not necessarily a reason to keep KF if we continue to look like we did last Saturday. But to assume Iowa is a big draw is not realistic.
mccarthyizm
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Short of murdering someone, Ferentz isn't going to get canned in-season, and I seriously doubt he'd be fired at the end of this season. Financially it may be entirely possible, but that's only part of the equation. Given his body of work, contract, and current AD, I think the most people can hope for is one of those drawn-out situations where he's asked to make changes at the end of the year. My guess is that he'd refuse, but who knows? It's equally possible that Greg Davis "retires" at the end of this season and nobody ever knows more about it than that. It's also possible he makes some changes now and win 8-9 games this year which would still disappoint some but keep him above the fray.
I think his leash is still long and that the right number of wins and improvement would keep him out of trouble for another year, even if the season is regarded as disappointing by those who saw 10 plus wins on this schedule.
It's nice that Iowa keeps its coaches so long in today's game, but doing so makes it very difficult to get rid of those coaches on the wrong side of their prime. It's not like Fry went out on top. To me, it's a better situation than going through coaching changes every 4-5 years, even though that is highly possible after Ferentz leaves.
I think his leash is still long and that the right number of wins and improvement would keep him out of trouble for another year, even if the season is regarded as disappointing by those who saw 10 plus wins on this schedule.
It's nice that Iowa keeps its coaches so long in today's game, but doing so makes it very difficult to get rid of those coaches on the wrong side of their prime. It's not like Fry went out on top. To me, it's a better situation than going through coaching changes every 4-5 years, even though that is highly possible after Ferentz leaves.
BILLBUCKNER
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There is lies the rub.Do we stay with KF brand of bland football that wins enough games to make a bowl .Loses to teams it has no business losing to and upsets teams sometimes. I guess as long as season attendance is high and donations keep pouring in.We stay with the safe comfy worn out blanket.
BlackGold57
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Unless Barta has major ties to donors, the first sign of change will be AD replacement. If that happens, the table is set for the next move. With the performance of the overall athletic program compared to others in the BIG, Barta's value needs to be looked at. I doubt he hires the next FB or BB coach.
dualradius
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Jury isn't out on Fran as far as I'm concerned - he's a gamer.
HawgEyeState
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This is true and a huge factor. Actually, I think this is all nonsense talk
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I don't recall that people were howling to fire KF, but I do recall that people were howling at the Crackhawk design to replace the Tigerhawk.
1999 was a sunk year. In 2000, we were slowly seeing improvements and hearing reports of good practices.
HawkIMalaise
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By this logic Oregon isn't a big draw because it only has 8-10 years of real success. You assume we would fall back to the Lauterbur years. Hayden Fry put a basement in how bad we can suck.
I know, it's nice having some real investigative journalism in the game, huh? Just think if the local press took their jobs this seriously. It would make your's a lot easier.
hawkinn3
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Don't take a chance because you might fail. The athletic department and kirk supporters seem to have the same philosophy as Kirk himself.
