Forbes - Iowa can afford to.....

LASBUR said:
3308 I think the point is it wont happen unless the Big Money turns on him. Im sure it would depend on who was hired. But those guys are hard to come by
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I dont think the 30 mill is a good number either. It notes that the previous years were 14 mill. 30 mill seems to be an anomaly.

The game sucked. The offense sucked. However it will take more for ferentz to be cut loose than this picture we have seen this year. I am not saying that is good or bad just the truth. I really have a hard time believing davis can survive but I didn't think he would 2012 either.
 
"1 hire from becoming Illinois. " May be true and at the same time its PAY not to lose just as KF play's not to lose.
 
Easton I think the numbers might have something to do with when and maybe how they exspensed some of the building they are doing. Not sure on that
Easton said:
I dont think the 30 mill is a good number either. It notes that the previous years were 14 mill. 30 mill seems to be an anomaly.

The game sucked. The offense sucked. However it will take more for ferentz to be cut loose than this picture we have seen this year. I am not saying that is good or bad just the truth. I really have a hard time believing davis can survive but I didn't think he would 2012 either.
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The other thing to keep in mind on the buyout. It's not all paid at once. According to KFs contract, his buyout is paid out in equal monthly installments over the remaining term of the contract. If KF were to be fired Jan 2015 (following the 2014 season), the U of I would owe him 60 monthly payments of $221,875. From a time value of money perspective, it's actually better for the University because the 60th installment, although equal to the first installment in "real" dollars is actually worth less. Probably about 20% less given avg inflation of 4% per year.

Plus, as I mentioned in a different thread, the new TV rights deal is coming up for negotiation as it expires June 30, 2016. The consensus is that the B1G stands to put an add'l $20/year ($45M/year vs. $25M/year now) into the hands of every school's athletics department. At the end of the day, you only have to "stomach" the buyout for 18 monthly payments, and then the increased TV rights money comes rolling in.

In my opinion, it's a no-brainer at the end of the year if we continue on this same path of pathetic play.
 
JD - I'm all for making a move if this year is a less than 8 win season. BUT, do you really trust GarBar to make this hire? This will be an EXTREMELY important hire and we saw what he did when Alfraud left town and the jury is still out on Fran. I think, if anything, GarBar has to go at the end of the season, and let the new guy bring in his man.

And for those that think the big money still loves KF - their patience is wearing thin.
 
Blog heads and whoever writers probably keep KF articles laying around like this. It's almost become comical the yearly firing KF articles.
 
AdamHawk said:
There is no way Iowa hires Brian if we get rid of Kirk. The only way Brian takes over the reigns is if Kirk leaves on his own accord when he is ready to retire (good terms). While I don't think things are ever as good or as bad as they seem, KF better right the ship soon or he is going to have major problems with job security.
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I do believe KF wants to set this up for BF to take over and that is why he wants to stick around 4 or 5 more years. He used up all his collateral with the all the bad loses to subpar teams. He is going to have to win at a pretty good clip from here on out to pass this on to BF.......KF knows this.
 
Its never a good idea to fire somebody mid-season, and I have not heard of anyone saying Kirk should be fired mid season. GD should be fired mid season.
 
trj said:
I do believe KF wants to set this up for BF to take over and that is why he wants to stick around 4 or 5 more years. He used up all his collateral with the all the bad loses to subpar teams. He is going to have to win at a pretty good clip from here on out to pass this on to BF.......KF knows this.
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IMAO -WTF,BFD
 
nationalchamps said:
JD - I'm all for making a move if this year is a less than 8 win season. BUT, do you really trust GarBar to make this hire? This will be an EXTREMELY important hire and we saw what he did when Alfraud left town and the jury is still out on Fran. I think, if anything, GarBar has to go at the end of the season, and let the new guy bring in his man.

And for those that think the big money still loves KF - their patience is wearing thin.
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Bielema wins 10 games with this schedule right now with the current roster. Plus with the new facilities he will bring in recruits.
 
NCHawker said:
"1 hire from becoming Illinois. " May be true and at the same time its PAY not to lose just as KF play's not to lose.
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Whoever continues to believe this perpetuates a disrespect and disservice to Iowa football. It's such a myopic speculation that disregards the condition of and resources available to the Iowa football program. Not to mention, it's just a flat-out false comparison.

Only bad fans with little pride in their football team would buy into such a fallacy that promotes clinging to known futility and underachieving mediocrity rather than striving for performance commensurate with capability.
 
STILLBUSTER said:
Whoever continues to believe this perpetuates a disrespect and disservice to Iowa football. It's such a myopic speculation that disregards the condition of and resources available to the Iowa football program. Not to mention, it's just a flat-out false comparison.

Only bad fans with little pride in their football team would buy into such a fallacy that promotes clinging to known futility and underachieving mediocrity rather than striving for performance commensurate with capability.
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I understand the gist of what you're saying, but on the flipside, to not acknowledge that this is even a possibility is just as bad as those who cling to the notion of us sucking if we let KF go.

From 1929-1959, we were as good of a program as there was in the entire country. From 1960-1979, we were as bad as any in the country. A couple of bad hires by us and a couple of great hires by Nebraska is all it took. Had we done it right, it's entirely conceivable to think that we would have become the Nebraska of the Midwest instead of Nebraska.

Tennessee has gone from college football powerhouse to college football also-ran in the span of a few short years. They have resources, geography, conference affiliation, etc all in their favor. Their issue? Bad coaching hires. Oklahoma did the same between Switzer and Stoops. Nebraska has felt it as well. Alabama went thru it between Bear Bryant and Saban(with a small window of success with Stallings). Will Muschamp was the next great coach a few years ago and he may not even survive this season and Florida hasn't done crap since Meyer left.

In college football, maybe more than any other sport, your team's success is predicated strongly on the ability of the head coach. If you don't get it right, it doesn't take long to go from the top to the bottom in a year or two. Does that mean you shouldn't even try? Of course not. But it also doesn't mean it's not smart to at least acknowledge it.
 
Hypothetically,
If Ferentz gets fired and we hired Bielema,
would we have to:
(A) Pay Ferentz millions for the buyout AND
(B) Pay Arkansas millions to poach Bielema?
 
Scooby said:
Hypothetically,
If Ferentz gets fired and we hired Bielema,
would we have to:
(A) Pay Ferentz millions for the buyout AND
(B) Pay Arkansas millions to poach Bielema?
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Isn't the main reason that people don't think Bielema will be fired at Arkansas is because his buyout is too high for Arkansas right now? Is there any precedent for a school in Iowa's position (in this hypothetical) splitting the buyout with a school that would like to get rid of the coach but can't afford the whole buyout? In comparing Arkansas and Iowa in this situation, neither side would really have much leverage against the other; Iowa wants their coach, Arkansas wants to get rid of him but can't afford to fire him.

As much as I disliked Bielema while he was at Wisconsin, he'd be the right fit for the program. He's got a strong track record in the B1G, he's an alum, and he was a big reason for our recruiting success in Florida in the late '90s/early 2000s. If he could come in and get that pipeline built up again, that would be fantastic.
 
That same Forbes link talked about Bielema's contract at Arkansas.
5 teams in the SEC West are ranked in the top 10? Yikes....and awaaaaayyyyy!
 
tm3308 said:
Isn't the main reason that people don't think Bielema will be fired at Arkansas is because his buyout is too high for Arkansas right now? Is there any precedent for a school in Iowa's position (in this hypothetical) splitting the buyout with a school that would like to get rid of the coach but can't afford the whole buyout? In comparing Arkansas and Iowa in this situation, neither side would really have much leverage against the other; Iowa wants their coach, Arkansas wants to get rid of him but can't afford to fire him.

As much as I disliked Bielema while he was at Wisconsin, he'd be the right fit for the program. He's got a strong track record in the B1G, he's an alum, and he was a big reason for our recruiting success in Florida in the late '90s/early 2000s. If he could come in and get that pipeline built up again, that would be fantastic.
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I can't hardly believe I'm saying this but I'm in your camp. 5 years or so ago I'd have said hell no Bielema. Now I think he'd be more then a shot in the arm for the whole program. I think he'd like to be here for one. I doubt he fits in too well down there and that division/conference he's in is brutal. What's his ceiling there really? I like how when he's got the better team he beats you down. I'm sick of when Iowa wins it's 21 to 17. Or 17 to 13 against teams they should be destroying. I'm just sick of Ferentzs teams not reaching their potential lately. I think the system and style isn't working anymore. The other coaches know how to stop what we try to do. It doesn't matter so much how good your players are if your predictable. That's how upsets happen when crazy turnovers aren't factors. If ISU can bottle up our running game and hold us to 3 points in the 2nd half at home that's inexcusable.... And would not happen under Beliema.
 
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