For the people asking for Rudock

hawkfan1319 said:
So, what your saying is, keep all back ups on the bench and that will prepare them mentally for next year rather than playing time in a game that's already decided? No pressure at all? KF is that you?
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When did i talk about a game that is already decided?? I was talking about the season in general. I never said anything about the PSU game. I don't know where you got that from.
 
doclee said:
So, don't read it. I enjoy the long messages that have some substance to them...better than lame attempts at one liners!
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That was a good one liner though.

An reading a long page of texts with no spaces is unbearable to read on a computer screen.
 
Tschroeder13 said:
Why would you think Rudock would do any better than JVB? You might say "Last year they moved AJ Derby to LB because he was making good progress" or something like that but really AJ could help the team more if he was not the back up QB. They said Jake Rudock was making good progress but what some people don't understand is that he was making this progress with different plays, and footwork, and different reads. Both QB's (JVB and Rudock) have had about the same amount of time to learn the new playbook and practice the footwork, who would you expect would do better?
My guess would be a 5th year senior would learn it more easily. If you put Rudock in now like a lot of people are calling for and he struggles like JVB is doing right now what is that going to do to his confidence? Chances are that his confidence wouldn't be best and that could mess him up for the years to come.
It would be a good choice to let Rudock sit on the bench and watch and observe, it will give him more time to get a better understanding of the playbook and give him more practice of the footwork. I'm sure if Rudock had everything down such as the playbook, the footwork, and his reads, that he would be given a chance.
It just makes more sense to go with a 5th year senior over a RS freshman when they have had the same time to learn the new offense. Why put Rudock in when he isn't 100% ready when you don't have to? You don't want him to struggle like JVB is because i'm sure they are having the same problems.
If anything I would be asking the JUCO QB that we have, he would make more sense than a RS freshman that hasn't played a down in college football, he (The JUCO QB) has played two years of football and was sucessful. They went and got the JUCO QB because they thought he would fit the offense not just to fill a spot... It would even be better to have people asking for Winkie before Rudock.
With all this being said you should just support JVB, he is the best choice at QB for iowa football. It is not easy to be learning something for so long and to switch it up, footwork is muscle memory for the most part and if one thing is off when you are playing QB you will not do the best you can. There is still a lot of practice left and i'm confident that he will improve. There is five games (guaranteed) left with a possiblitiy of six to seven. We should just support our QB. The coaches obivously think he is the best choice and I support the coaches, they have been coaching for many years at the highest level of college football and some NFL experience.


This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Instead of actually writing, the OP needs to sit on the bench for the rest of the year so he doesn't have to struggle as a writer.
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There are coaches, good coaches who would not tollerate such performance. And just to make the point,the coach would sit the QB down. And would not be afraid to put the kid in and call the plays from the sideline. Anyone can hand the damed ball off. Anyone can throw a short pass. Not everyone can read a defense. That's ok. I have to think that maybe someone else could see the field better than JVB. You can't teach that. Time on the bench isn't going to help a kid see the field. Time on the bench won't help instincts.

btw, didn't someone say that Davis is great at adjusting the scheme to fit the player?
 
I don't go for the "he isn't ready" excuse. But that would be the coaches fault if he isn' t ready. He should be in every meeting, every film session, throwing right beside JVB as if he was starting the next game. Because in one play they could be taking JVB off on a cart like Joe Theisman.

It only makes sense to put him in the fourth quarter. In fact James got sandwiched pretty hard in the fourth and could have been injured. Take the kid gloves off Jake and put him in there. Maybe he would thrive. Maybe he would fail. Either way is OK because it means EXPERIENCE.

Maybe he is a gamer. JVB has proven not to be.
 
How do all these other teams put in back ups and they become superstars but only once has Iowa's back up been better than the starter. Is Iowa not able to get a QB ready unless they have at least three years?
 
If it's all about confidence, what does it say to Rudock if he doesn't get any snaps down by 30+ points when the starter is skidding passes along the ground 5 yards in front of his receiver. A couple weeks ago, the coach said that they were happy to have JVB as the starter for the rest of the season. For some inexplicable reason he won't go back on that statement.

Burning redshirts for limited play hasn't been an issue in the past so if Sokol is the guy Ferentz would be playing him by now. My guess is they invested too much in JVB learning this offense and made ZERO contingency plans. I think they don't play Rudock because of they didn't coach him enough(by their own choice) and it would be unfair to him to play him.
 
1. I think the majority of people wanted to see him on Saturday, but not necessarily handed the keys for the rest of the year.

2. If he WERE handed the keys, people would expect him to be just as bad, if not worse. He'd be cut far more slack, because it'd be about getting experience for next year, not winning right now.
 
Because you could throw a 3yrd slant better than JVB right now....pretty sure Rudock could too...question answered...
 
Tschroeder13 said:
My point is we don't know if the future is ready or not. It would not be good to send a QB that is not ready to play... He has NEVER taken a snap in a game at the college level. I suspect that he is having a lot of the same stuggles that JVB is having. They both learned and focused on something different than they are doing this year. It just doesn't make sense to throw in a QB who has NEVER taken a snap against any level of college opponents and play them against B1G schools.
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And next season, should he be the starter, he still would NEVER have taken a snap in a collegiate game.

I think Kirk made a huge mistake not letting Rudock play a series or two at the end of the game. I have heard many arguments as to the advantages, but no legitimate argument about any disadvantages.
 
coralville said:
Why are our QB's such ******* they can't be subbed without hurting their egos? I say, take those red jerseys and let them be football players. Minny can put in a true freshman and ours are too dumb to handle it until they are juniors??
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Here, here.
 
It is a mystery to me that KF says repeatedly that this year is all about this year...we want to win now. Hence, he has played more young players the past couple of years than was his habit in the past. I believe he even talked about that change in his approach with the media. However, he has not followed through with that change in the QB position. I would love to see JVB be successful...both for him and for the team as well as for the fans like me. But, he has been so bad it is strange that KF has not played a different QB. And, not as a mop up when its convenient, but as a true rotation, or even replacing JVB as a starter. The only real option he has would be Rudock. I doubt that Weinke has had any practice reps and I get the desire to keep the red shirt on Sokol. Anyway, I am confused.
 
PimScutney said:
If it's all about confidence, what does it say to Rudock if he doesn't get any snaps down by 30+ points when the starter is skidding passes along the ground 5 yards in front of his receiver. A couple weeks ago, the coach said that they were happy to have JVB as the starter for the rest of the season. For some inexplicable reason he won't go back on that statement.

Burning redshirts for limited play hasn't been an issue in the past so if Sokol is the guy Ferentz would be playing him by now. My guess is they invested too much in JVB learning this offense and made ZERO contingency plans. I think they don't play Rudock because of they didn't coach him enough(by their own choice) and it would be unfair to him to play him.
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Yeah, watching JV out there stinking it up, while the team is getting blown out, and coach still won't put you in must be doing wonders for Rudock's confidence. He should have been put in during the PSU game. The game was lost. If he screwed up and made a few mistakes, so what? The outcome of the game was decided by halftime pretty much. As has been stated Rudock has taken ZERO college snaps, so the 4th quarter would have been a great time to take some snaps as a collegiate QB. If he made mistakes, fine. They could go back into the film room and point out what he did wrong, what would have been a better choice, and he could learn from it and improve.

Point is, I'm tired of watching JV be scared out there and the offense not doing anything because of it. I'm tired of the coaching staff not make changes when the gameplan isn't working and the offense is doing nothing. I'm tired of watching the players suffer through this 4-3 season when they could potentially be 6-1 with a more aggressive game plan. They are lucky to be 4-3 right now and should probably be 2-5. If they were 2-5 would JV still be QB? How high would the heat be on KF? The players deserve better than what they are getting right now.
 
I clearly remember people saying that the two QB's behind Christiansen were simply not ready and that the drop off was huge.
 
NCHawker said:
I clearly remember people saying that the two QB's behind Christiansen were simply not ready and that the drop off was huge.
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Was this in 2007 or 2008? In 2008, Stanzi clearly was ready. I'm not as sure if that was true in 2007? But your point is taken.
 
The point that Jake isn't ready and simply will be destroyed, lose all confidence and slink back to South Florida simply does not wash, work or make sense. If he is #2 QB give him some frickin' snaps.
 
doclee said:
It is a mystery to me that KF says repeatedly that this year is all about this year...we want to win now. Hence, he has played more young players the past couple of years than was his habit in the past. I believe he even talked about that change in his approach with the media. However, he has not followed through with that change in the QB position. I would love to see JVB be successful...both for him and for the team as well as for the fans like me. But, he has been so bad it is strange that KF has not played a different QB. And, not as a mop up when its convenient, but as a true rotation, or even replacing JVB as a starter. The only real option he has would be Rudock. I doubt that Weinke has had any practice reps and I get the desire to keep the red shirt on Sokol. Anyway, I am confused.
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I've got no doubt that Vandy gives the team the best chance to win right now. That may not be good for the long run, but short-term, I think he's the best solution. Handing the keys to Rudock right now would be playing more for the future than the present.

Not saying I agree or disagree with Ferentz on that (I think Rudock should have gotten some snaps on Saturday), but it fits perfectly with his logic, as you outlined.
 
Yes, I would expect almost ANY QB to do better. McNutt would do better. Look at his stats and where he ranks in the nation in most major categories.
 
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