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hawkeyebob62 said:
Because it's easier to get on a podcast with Deace and rank on KF?
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I've been to/been part of 100+ Ferentz pressers and or interviews with Kirk on my own radio shows or 1 on 1's at media day. Which is the very essence of 'been there, done that'.
 
ssckelley said:
I got enough on my plate with my own career than having to tell someone else how to do their job. Had I wanted to be a reporter then I would have went to school for journalism.

Can you honestly say there are no questions you have ever held back because of the fear of how Rob Howe got treated or get a reply like <snort> "thats football"?
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Dude. I get it. You think the press sucks. But maybe you should learn the difference between a reporter and a columnist. Because it seems that while most writers in journalists are reporters, what you want is everyone to be a columnist, expressing pointed opinions.

For reporters who are being told by editors what stories they want to run, their job is to go get specific factual answers to questions that are not based on opinon.

Natty Champs starts with a nice question and ends with something that would rightfully get him removed from the press conference. And I think that if you owned a newspaper and one of your reporters finished a question with a loaded statement such as that, you'd probably fire him.

Since, most people actually do not want to lose their jobs, it would not be too large of a logical leap to suggest that they actively try to keep their jobs.
 
BSpringsteen said:
Dude. I get it. You think the press sucks. But maybe you should learn the difference between a reporter and a columnist. Because it seems that while most writers in journalists are reporters, what you want is everyone to be a columnist, expressing pointed opinions.

For reporters who are being told by editors what stories they want to run, their job is to go get specific factual answers to questions that are not based on opinon.

Natty Champs starts with a nice question and ends with something that would rightfully get him removed from the press conference. And I think that if you owned a newspaper and one of your reporters finished a question with a loaded statement such as that, you'd probably fire him.

Since, most people actually do not want to lose their jobs, it would not be too large of a logical leap to suggest that they actively try to keep their jobs.
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No, I never said that. What I said was it wouldn't matter what the press asked KF because he would either act like an idiot and pretend like he did not understand it or turn on the reporter who asked him the question just like you suggested would happen to nattychamps. You cannot tell me some of these reporters are very careful on what they ask KF and it should not be that way.
 
JonDMiller said:
I've been to/been part of 100+ Ferentz pressers and or interviews with Kirk on my own radio shows or 1 on 1's at media day. Which is the very essence of 'been there, done that'.
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The fact remains...it's a lot easier for you to do your "job" on a podcast with Deace, no? So, why waste the time at a presser?

I just think you were harder on KF in the podcast than I have ever heard before. But...you certainly didn't say anything out of line or anything that isn't also felt by 100,000+ other folks.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
The fact remains...it's a lot easier for you to do your "job" on a podcast with Deace, no? So, why waste the time at a presser?

I just think you were harder on KF in the podcast than I have ever heard before. But...you certainly didn't say anything out of line or anything that isn't also felt by 100,000+ other folks.
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Why do you put "job" in quotes? Is there some implication that it is a lesser "job" than you do? FYI, pal, Jon Miller's "job" is 1000x more important than yours.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Why do you put "job" in quotes? Is there some implication that it is a lesser "job" than you do? FYI, pal, Jon Miller's "job" is 1000x more important than yours.
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Wow. This thread has so far blatantly insulted my Jewish bros as well as first class website owners.
So what I can conclude is that the site is populated by a bunch of Anti Semitic newspaper loyalists.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Why do you put "job" in quotes? Is there some implication that it is a lesser "job" than you do? FYI, pal, Jon Miller's "job" is 1000x more important than yours.
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I meant in the sense that he probably has a certain set of things he wants to accomplish in a given day and, though he runs a Hawkeye-related website, showing up for every post-game press conference is probably less important to him than doing things that actually are a part of site content. Stuff at a presser can be obtained by/for Jon with Jon needing to sit there like one of Pavlov's dogs.

And OF COURSE his "job" is more important than mine. Thanks, Cap'n Ob-vuss.
 
I think pressers are a waste of time...I began transcribing Kirk's pressers back in 2001. Prior to that, pressers at Iowa were not transcribed. I came to loathe them because it was a couple hours of laborious monotony for very little payoff, but people seemed to like them enough and read them so I did it. One of the best days ever was the year Iowa switched to a transcription service. Then last year, the On the Side's go away, which was a bummer because that was about as frank as things ever got.

As for being critical of Kirk, I don't expect for you to have read and or heard everything I have done the last 14 years. But I've been critical, perhaps just not as far as some want..you never are. At the same time, some people came out and said lay off the man, etc.

As far as this being one of the most critical times? Yes, it is. But the juncture we are approaching in the Ferentz tenure, juxtaposed with decreasing returns, we've never been here before.
 
JonDMiller said:
I think pressers are a waste of time...I began transcribing Kirk's pressers back in 2001. Prior to that, pressers at Iowa were not transcribed. I came to loathe them because it was a couple hours of laborious monotony for very little payoff, but people seemed to like them enough and read them so I did it. One of the best days ever was the year Iowa switched to a transcription service. Then last year, the On the Side's go away, which was a bummer because that was about as frank as things ever got.

As for being critical of Kirk, I don't expect for you to have read and or heard everything I have done the last 14 years. But I've been critical, perhaps just not as far as some want..you never are. At the same time, some people came out and said lay off the man, etc.

As far as this being one of the most critical times? Yes, it is. But the juncture we are approaching in the Ferentz tenure, juxtaposed with decreasing returns, we've never been here before.
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how chippy will these pressers be at the end of the year if the record is 4-8? will all the goodwill be gone?
 
JonDMiller said:
I think pressers are a waste of time...I began transcribing Kirk's pressers back in 2001. Prior to that, pressers at Iowa were not transcribed. I came to loathe them because it was a couple hours of laborious monotony for very little payoff, but people seemed to like them enough and read them so I did it. One of the best days ever was the year Iowa switched to a transcription service. Then last year, the On the Side's go away, which was a bummer because that was about as frank as things ever got.

As for being critical of Kirk, I don't expect for you to have read and or heard everything I have done the last 14 years. But I've been critical, perhaps just not as far as some want..you never are. At the same time, some people came out and said lay off the man, etc.

As far as this being one of the most critical times? Yes, it is. But the juncture we are approaching in the Ferentz tenure, juxtaposed with decreasing returns, we've never been here before.
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Certainly not been here in the Ferentz tenure? 1999 people were ready to drop him off a bridge. Only at the END of the 2000 season were "fans" starting to buy in. And every loss in 2001 wasn't exactly met with, "We are still rebuilding".

Personally, I have been a KF supporter for a long time. I was last Saturday, too, until the fake punt. I still want him to succeed, but no longer will I hold off on--or intentionally limit--criticism. But, I took from the podcast that you are past supporting him in any way. Frankly, i got the impression Deace was the Iowa fan!

I can even accept the loss. MSU just got after us. The fake punt, though, just shredded my heart.
 
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