Floyd thread

[HawkPowerlifter]

Man, I love this place. LOL.

 

[Fryowa]

I would take mild offense to this statement, as I had a HS teacher who liked to call me Cliff Clavin for my trove of meaningless trivia. Bbut I agree, I am not in the same league as @Northside Hawk .

I will go to my grave telling everyone who'll listen that "Who are 3 people who've never been in my kitchen?" is a valid, correct answer and Cliff is a Jeopardy champ in my book.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

Sort of...one of PJ's mentor's wrote a letter to KF, asking if he would consider taking PJ on as a GA. KF replied with a letter stating thanks for the recommendation, we are full with GAs at the moment, but we will certainly keep PJ in mind going forward (KF must spend half his day with correspondence, he replies to EVERYONE). PJ has the reply letter, with KF's signature, framed in his office.

https://x.com/ScottDochterman/status/1980731099488649315

I think there is a lot of mutual respect between the two, with enough animosity to make it fun. It has to keep PJ up at night that he is 1-10 against KF, and he knows the one he got was BS.

I think some of the recent animosity with the coaching staffs at Iowa State and Minnesota was a result of Brian. He seemed like the only Kirk assistant who ran his mouth publicly, so we can likely guess there was a lot more of that on the recruiting trail. That sense of entitlement rubbed people the wrong way. I think Campbell and Fleck very much respect Kirk - his kid, maybe not so much.

I think Kirk respects those two, too. He has seen some of the shit shows that have come through Ames and Minneapolis, and those two aren't that.

 

[thedukeofearl]

And without the 3-4 Iowa penalties on that drive Minnie wouldn’t have gotten those 3 points.

A rather pathetic attempt at saving face

Somewhat pitiful gesture

Does he still hate Iowa

 

[Hawke]

Sort of...one of PJ's mentor's wrote a letter to KF, asking if he would consider taking PJ on as a GA. KF replied with a letter stating thanks for the recommendation, we are full with GAs at the moment, but we will certainly keep PJ in mind going forward (KF must spend half his day with correspondence, he replies to EVERYONE). PJ has the reply letter, with KF's signature, framed in his office.

https://x.com/ScottDochterman/status/1980731099488649315

I think there is a lot of mutual respect between the two, with enough animosity to make it fun. It has to keep PJ up at night that he is 1-10 against KF, and he knows the one he got was BS.

IT WASN’T A FAIR CATCH!!

 

[Grady]

Sort of...one of PJ's mentor's wrote a letter to KF, asking if he would consider taking PJ on as a GA. KF replied with a letter stating thanks for the recommendation, we are full with GAs at the moment, but we will certainly keep PJ in mind going forward (KF must spend half his day with correspondence, he replies to EVERYONE). PJ has the reply letter, with KF's signature, framed in his office.

https://x.com/ScottDochterman/status/1980731099488649315

I think there is a lot of mutual respect between the two, with enough animosity to make it fun. It has to keep PJ up at night that he is 1-10 against KF, and he knows the one he got was BS.

I suspect KF respects that PJ has built a moderately successful program over a period of time, which Kirk knows is a challenge.
But beyond that, he clearly felt animosity toward PJ when he called those timeouts -- I've never seen him do anything remotely similar to that at any other time during his tenure. At that time I think there'd been controversy about PJ's recruitment tactics vs Iowa -- not sure if it was 'negative recruiting' against the Iowa program, pressuring recruits to sign on the dotted line when they visit MN and cancel all other visits (well-known), or something else, but it was real. Have never seen KF pull anything like that before, or since.
They are also opposite personalities -- PJ is a motivator, a sloganeering hype man; KF is a behind-the-scenes CEO. Both competitive, but completely different styles. If they weren't coaching, it's easy to envision PJ raising thru the ranks as a car salesman to own his own line of used car companies. Ferentz, more of a banker.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

I probably would've been petty and done the same thing too, honestly. No reason to give Iowa fans satisfaction.

I feel like Fleck and KF are a lot a like in certain ways, both run clean programs for the most part, both are really dorky, neither are going to ever be B1G title or playoff contenders, etc. I feel like they're probably really nice to each other in person and are genuine about it, but given the chance they like to dig at the other programs. Fleck kicking a FG to ruin a shutout, KF saying, "Figured we'd take Floyd with us and leave the timeouts here" after he called 3 meaningless TOs in a row against MN...

That kinda shit. I'm fine with it either way.

To be honest, we deserved that 3 points scored against us the way a lot of the 2nd half went.

I think Fleck genuinely respects and admires Kirk.

While he would never admit it, my guess is that Kirk respects what he has done but is not fond of him at all.

The whole "3 consecutive TOs at the end of the game" scenario was purely a reaction to his annoyance with Fleck, who - on 4th down and with only seconds left in the game - called a TO in an attempt to try to score rather than letting the clock run out. It was obvious that Kirk didn't view that as appropriate or as something he would ever do. The 3 TOs were his passive-aggressive way of sending PJ a clear message to that effect.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

I suspect KF respects that PJ has built a moderately successful program over a period of time, which Kirk knows is a challenge.
But beyond that, he clearly felt animosity toward PJ when he called those timeouts -- I've never seen him do anything remotely similar to that at any other time during his tenure. At that time I think there'd been controversy about PJ's recruitment tactics vs Iowa -- not sure if it was 'negative recruiting' against the Iowa program, pressuring recruits to sign on the dotted line when they visit MN and cancel all other visits (well-known), or something else, but it was real. Have never seen KF pull anything like that before, or since.
They are also opposite personalities -- PJ is a motivator, a sloganeering hype man; KF is a behind-the-scenes CEO. Both competitive, but completely different styles. If they weren't coaching, it's easy to envision PJ raising thru the ranks as a car salesman to own his own line of used car companies. Ferentz, more of a banker.

I think Fleck missed his calling as an infomercial peddler.