Ferentz Era Mt Rushmore: The (Surprising) Results



99topdawg said:
I'll have to admit that I'm one of the 297, and here's my reason. I voted for my top 4, which included Sanders. Before I clicked submit, I looked over the list one last time. I saw that I hadn't voted for my all time favorite Hawk, Matt Roth. I had to take one name off the list. I thought to myself, "well, Bob's gonna run away with this thing, so he doesn't need my vote". Bob was my number one, but I had to give props to Matt Roth. Probably not the way I was supposed to vote, but it was my vote, so... :)
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Good God, do you vote in political elections? :)
 


theboat said:
People claim his teams were strong overall, but put JC in there at QB for the whole 2008 and 2009 season. Does anyone actually think they turn out anywhere close to the same?

Stanzi was a guy that could make everyone around him better just by his presence.
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OK, I visualized that "put JC in there" thing. Horrible nightmares. Just horrible. Please don't ever suggest that again :)
 




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SpiderRico said:
There are 297 people that need to have their head examined. It's one thing to argue over Chad Greenway/Abdul Hodge/Pat Angerer as to which one deserves to be on there. Or Stanzi/Banks/Tate.

But the fact that there are actually 297 people here that don't think Bob Sanders was one of the 4 most impactful players in the Ferentz era is certainly dumbfounding.
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First and foremost... I loved watching Bob play. He is one of my all time favorite hawks.

With that said... I don't understand how it is so crazy that people didn't vote for him.

We have players who were voted as the best QB, RB, Lineman, K, TE in college football for a particular year. First team all americans and so forth.

And the runaway favorite is Sanders... I guess I feel like I'm the one who should be shocked.
 


SpiderRico said:
I had Stanzi on my list and I absolutely think he gets short-changed mainly because of the disappointment from 2010 that had nothing to do with him:

1. The absolute best leader we've had at the QB position since 1985.
2. 2nd best overall record as a QB since 1985
3. First QB to win a BCS-level bowl since the 1950s
4. First QB to get drafted from Iowa in about 25 years
5. Won 3 bowl games in a row
6. Engineered the greatest start to a season in school history in 2009
7. Beat 3 Top 5 teams during his career
8. He's a true patriot! And any talk of a "Mt Rushmore" has to include the greatest American in Hawkeye history! :)
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"the disappointment from 2010 had nothing to do with him"

what about having the ball with a chance to win or tie near the end for almost all of the losses, and all those late failures? The offense looked pretty bad in those possessions. That actually had A LOT to do with Stanzi. Great guy, many great games and wins, but yes, those losses were partially on him. I think we win at least a couple more of those game with Banks or a healthy Tate.
 


albertyoungisgood said:
"the disappointment from 2010 had nothing to do with him"

what about having the ball with a chance to win or tie near the end for almost all of the losses, and all those late failures? The offense looked pretty bad in those possessions. That actually had A LOT to do with Stanzi. Great guy, many great games and wins, but yes, those losses were partially on him. I think we win at least a couple more of those game with Banks or a healthy Tate.
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It's just a difference of opinion is all. I place most of those losses on the defense that couldn't stop anyone late.
 


I guess i'm just goofy but i'll reiterate I find it patently ridiculous that anyone would not vote for Nate Kaeding. There were two obvious, had to be's on the list: Nate Kaeding and Bob Sanders. Since i've now made this point on three threads i'll just quickly mention and walk away puzzled by the foolishness of others- Nate Kaeding was the best player in the country at his position for two years. Dallas Clark, amazing tight end was best player at his position in the country for one year. Plenty of teams don't even have a tight end, every team in college football has a kicker or 3. Stanzi, Greenway, Hodge, all the rest were best players in the big ten at their positions, maybe even for two years. Kaeding was The Best Player at his position in ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL, for two years.
 


iloveyoularrystation said:
I guess i'm just goofy but i'll reiterate I find it patently ridiculous that anyone would not vote for Nate Kaeding. There were two obvious, had to be's on the list: Nate Kaeding and Bob Sanders. Since i've now made this point on three threads i'll just quickly mention and walk away puzzled by the foolishness of others- Nate Kaeding was the best player in the country at his position for two years. Dallas Clark, amazing tight end was best player at his position in the country for one year. Plenty of teams don't even have a tight end, every team in college football has a kicker or 3. Stanzi, Greenway, Hodge, all the rest were best players in the big ten at their positions, maybe even for two years. Kaeding was The Best Player at his position in ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL, for two years.
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I might be wrong on this, but I think Mike Nugent was 1st team AP All American in 2002 and then Kaeding won in 2003.

I agree with your premise, just don't think he was "technically" considered the best for 2 straight years.
 






Matt Roth needs to be on this list people. He's a peg below Bob Sanders but still contributed in huge ways from an attitude and performance standpoint.
 


hawkfan340 said:
1. Sanders
2. Gallery
3. Greenway
4. Greene

Even though we basically only got one year from him, SG gave us the best rushing season in Hawkeye history. That's enough to get him on the Mt. imo.
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This is my list as well, albeit it in a slightly different order (I have Greenway and Gallery reversed).
I don't get how anyone puts Stanzi in le top four in teh Kurt Era. That is redickalous.
 


theboat said:
People claim his teams were strong overall, but put JC in there at QB for the whole 2008 and 2009 season. Does anyone actually think they turn out anywhere close to the same?
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No, but put Banks, Chandler, Tate or Vandenburg on those teams and they do just as well and probably better.

Stanzi was ok in 2008 for a soph. much better than his predecessor but he had a high amount of fumbles that if avoided could have left the team with 2 or 3 more wins.

2009, again OK, had some awesome moments and some awful ones. Had an great defense that carried the team in allot of games. Overall the offense was poor.

2010, enormousness disappointment. Started out great but played the worst ball of his career the last five games of that season.
 




ibahawkeye said:
First and foremost... I loved watching Bob play. He is one of my all time favorite hawks.

With that said... I don't understand how it is so crazy that people didn't vote for him.

We have players who were voted as the best QB, RB, Lineman, K, TE in college football for a particular year. First team all americans and so forth.

And the runaway favorite is Sanders... I guess I feel like I'm the one who should be shocked.
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Bob Sanders is the best player of the KF era, no questions asked.

No one person, player or coach,was more responsible for bringing back the Iowa football program.
 




Wow, these Folks just blew it and it wasn't that hard.

Bob, Dallas, Nate & Gallery are the 4.

Stanzi, Clayborn, Angerer & Mitch King are
the second 4. Simple stuff and you blew it, here.
 


SpiderRico said:
I might be wrong on this, but I think Mike Nugent was 1st team AP All American in 2002 and then Kaeding won in 2003.

I agree with your premise, just don't think he was "technically" considered the best for 2 straight years.
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You're right. The year Nugent won the award Kaeding missed one field goal. I was userping the stupidity of the award folks.
 


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