Fant's Tweet

[skinnykilmer17]

I wish you experts would spend more time analyzing and critiquing the situation with our punter and his backup. This is where the real story is. Come on. There has to be a "Deepthroat" out there.

Our starting punter has one more year of eligibilty left. As Leisitkow pointed out he averaged 35 yds/punt!! in his last 32 punts. (He punted 49 times in the regular season). Leisitkow sez Gersonde was booming his punts in his bowl practices.

If we see the same crap trotted out next year then we don't need a Deepthroat. Pretty obvious even to you apologists. If it isn't already.

Good analysis by Leisitkow re next year.

https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/2449456002

 

[Adam]

Yup, he is learning, although my impression is that his "gametime" calling is a bit Helter Skelter

Helter Skelter is at least unpredictable. 2 years ago every poster on this board was sure that our predictable playcalling was the problem with the offense. Let's at least be grateful that we get to complain about new things.

 

[oldhawk12]

I think Schwartz missed the point of Fant's tweet. He wasn't just "cheering on his teammates." He was rightfully taking a shot at Ferentz for not playing his talent (Epenesa in this case). The "he should be out there every play" comment wasn't about Epenesa--it was Fant commenting on his own playing time and Ferentz's pattern of not putting talent on the field.

Let's not sugar coat this. Fant's pissed at the Ferentz's. Epenesa will have a decision to make next year too, if Iowa makes a bowl game. Aside from that, will Ferentz even allow the 5-star talent to start in his last year as a Hawkeye, or is there a hard-working Iowa kid with more union card stock?

Ferentz has a long history of this pattern. Well documented. When it comes to walk ons, he is the original Don Quixote

 

[8then88]

Helter Skelter is at least unpredictable. 2 years ago every poster on this board was sure that our predictable playcalling was the problem with the offense. Let's at least be grateful that we get to complain about new things.

I have to tell you I love the aggressive play calling that BF has brought to the offense! I think there have been missed opportunities in every game this year. Some Stanley's fault, some Brian's fault, some breakdowns in execution, but I am excited about the future and it will only improve with this young coaching staff!!

 

[Adam]

I have to tell you I love the aggressive play calling that BF has brought to the offense! I think there have been missed opportunities in every game this year. Some Stanley's fault, some Brian's fault, some breakdowns in execution, but I am excited about the future and it will only improve with this young coaching staff!!

I just like that it is at least different. Now it just need to become proficient against quality Defense. The bowl game was a baby step in the right direction. It wasn't exactly proficient, but it found some traction on short drives when it was needed the most. Some games that is the only way to win.

 

[Knight78]

Fant is a mediocre blocker. The mistake that Bri son of Kirk made was playing him at TE instead of playing him as a giant freak WR. Imagine the pants pissing by DC's with Hockenson at TE and Fant split out wide in the red zone.

They did this a lot anyway by setting Fant away from the tackle on the LOS. Sometimes they even put Fant and Hock on the same side or motioned Fant to Hock's side. We already have a big WR with pretty good hands - Smith. When we put Hock on that side and motioned Fant to the same side to flood a zone, you had three tall receivers with good hands.

 

[Knight78]

Kind of interesting that Iowa won vs Mississippi State as, by far, the most disciplined, well coached of the two, and yet the losses and missed opportunities vs NW, WI etc. are pretty easily connected to a poorly coached team.

Have to disagree. Do you really think that having a blocker get pushed back into a rolling punt is a coaching issue? Or is it the fact that the punt returner didn't yell loud enough to be heard? (I was at that game and I had to yell to be heard by my wife in the next seat) Do you really think that a fluke fumble is a coaching issue? Fumbles happen and you do all you can to prevent them, but they still happen; they especially happen when the ball you are carrying is inexplicably hit by your teammate's foot.

 

[revkev73]

Have to disagree. Do you really think that having a blocker get pushed back into a rolling punt is a coaching issue? Or is it the fact that the punt returner didn't yell loud enough to be heard? (I was at that game and I had to yell to be heard by my wife in the next seat) Do you really think that a fluke fumble is a coaching issue? Fumbles happen and you do all you can to prevent them, but they still happen; they especially happen when the ball you are carrying is inexplicably hit by your teammate's foot.

But in the bowl game Iowa is credited with being so well coached because they had zero penalties. The coach wasn't on the field, how could it be good coaching?

 

[NCHawker]

who was making the tackles in short yardage? Parker Hesse. Parker was in there because he is better defending the run.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Have to disagree. Do you really think that having a blocker get pushed back into a rolling punt is a coaching issue? Or is it the fact that the punt returner didn't yell loud enough to be heard? (I was at that game and I had to yell to be heard by my wife in the next seat) Do you really think that a fluke fumble is a coaching issue? Fumbles happen and you do all you can to prevent them, but they still happen; they especially happen when the ball you are carrying is inexplicably hit by your teammate's foot.

Not disagreeing with you in any way. But again, Beyer is clearly seen noticing the ball on the ground when he was fifteen yards away from it and he should have clearly noticed Hooker getting as far away from it as he could. Beyer runs directly toward a ball on the ground for at least ten yards, then turns his back to what he already knows is on the ground. Groeneweg shouldn't of had to yell a thing at him. It was a complete brainlock of a play on the part of Beyer. He had two or three opportunities to get away from it and executed none of them.

 

[The Big LeHAWKski]

No. Ferentz's job is utilize the players he recruited and do his best to win games while they're at Iowa. Ferentz didn't utilize Fant to his fullest potential--to the detriment of the team.

Consider how often we have seen over the KF years where Iowa TEs excel and perform far better in the NFL than they ever did in college? Answer: Almost every single time.
George Kittle, CJ Fiedorowicz, Scott Chandler, Brandon Myers, Tony Moeaki and even Dallas Clark all come to mind.
Yes, they all had success in college, but they all had way more success in the NFL.
Fant and TJ will both thrive at the next level and good for them!
I hope they both make a ton of cash, have fun and stay healthy!

 

[HawkleberryFinn]

Fant meets Bill Belichick on his first day in the NFL (at 1:19).

 

[Adam]

Fant meets Bill Belichick on his first day in the NFL (at 1:19).

Lol if the Patriots go TE I bet you they go with Hock.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Consider how often we have seen over the KF years where Iowa TEs excel and perform far better in the NFL than they ever did in college? Answer: Almost every single time.
George Kittle, CJ Fiedorowicz, Scott Chandler, Brandon Myers, Tony Moeaki and even Dallas Clark all come to mind.
Yes, they all had success in college, but they all had way more success in the NFL.
Fant and TJ will both thrive at the next level and good for them!
I hope they both make a ton of cash, have fun and stay healthy!

Well when you think of it a good NFL player will get much more then the three or four years he gets in college.

You're probably right about most of those examples but Dallas Clark was pretty good from a statictical standpoint his last year at Iowa.

You also have to take into account that most of the TE's on your list didn't play full time in years that other TE's on your list started ahead of him. And your list doesn't include Henry Krieger-Coble, who has gotten a cup of coffee in the NFL, or Jake Duzey, who would have gotten a whole pot of coffee if not for his injuries. They were definitely in the mix during the CJ and Kittle years.

After all, Barry Sanders didn't do much at Oklahoma State until his senior year. He was second string behind Thurman Thomas before that.

 

[lightning1]

Well when you think of it a good NFL player will get much more then the three or four years he gets in college.

You're probably right about most of those examples but Dallas Clark was pretty good from a statictical standpoint his last year at Iowa.

You also have to take into account that most of the TE's on your list didn't play full time in years that other TE's on your list started ahead of him. And your list doesn't include Henry Krieger-Coble, who has gotten a cup of coffee in the NFL, or Jake Duzey, who would have gotten a whole pot of coffee if not for his injuries. They were definitely in the mix during the CJ and Kittle years.

After all, Barry Sanders didn't do much at Oklahoma State until his senior year. He was second string behind Thurman Thomas before that.

JR year. Barry Sanders was an early entry.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Which obviously didn't hurt him very much.

He went first overall in the famous1989 NFL draft, immediately succeeded by Tony Mandarich, Troy Aikman, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders. Four Hall of Fame players. And Mandarich, who was a classic road grader in George Perles' run oriented offense at Michigan State but didn't save face in the NFL until he failed at offensive tackle, couldn't pass block, hit bottom, and finally emerged with the Indianapolis Colts as a serviceable guard during the Jim Harbaugh QB years of mid to late nineties.

 

[Xerxes]

Which obviously didn't hurt him very much.

He went first overall in the famous1989 NFL draft, immediately succeeded by Tony Mandarich, Troy Aikman, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders. Four Hall of Fame players. And Mandarich, who was a classic road grader in George Perles' run oriented offense at Michigan State but didn't save face in the NFL until he failed at offensive tackle, couldn't pass block, hit bottom, and finally emerged with the Indianapolis Colts as a serviceable guard during the Jim Harbaugh QB years of mid to late nineties.

I have to give you credit, you're sports memory is pretty impressive when it comes to details.

Funny side note from that draft. With 2 games to go in the 1988 season, Green Bay was 2-12 and set to have the #1 overall pick and most likely Troy Aikman. They won 2 meaningless games over the Vikings and Cardinals to get to 4-12 and thus had the 2nd pick and the rest is history. Cowboys, Chiefs, and Atlanta draft HOF'ers and GB gets Mandarich.

Of course 3 years later, Ron Wolf inexplicably traded a 1st round pick to Atlanta for their 3rd string QB nobody outside of Mississippi knew of. Probably doesn't happen if GB is picking first in the 1989 draft. Funny how little twists and turns have such a long term effect.

 

[Northside Hawk]

I have to give you credit, you're sports memory is pretty impressive when it comes to details.

Funny side note from that draft. With 2 games to go in the 1988 season, Green Bay was 2-12 and set to have the #1 overall pick and most likely Troy Aikman. They won 2 meaningless games over the Vikings and Cardinals to get to 4-12 and thus had the 2nd pick and the rest is history. Cowboys, Chiefs, and Atlanta draft HOF'ers and GB gets Mandarich.

Of course 3 years later, Ron Wolf inexplicably traded a 1st round pick to Atlanta for their 3rd string QB nobody outside of Mississippi knew of. Probably doesn't happen if GB is picking first in the 1989 draft. Funny how little twists and turns have such a long term effect.

I guarantee I didn't remember one bit of the scenario you just spelled out.

But I do remember Green Bay fans grumbling over "wasting" their first round pick by dealing it for Favre.

Shows why fans are fans and why some are paid to be general managers.

When Brian Billick was hired by the Ravens in 1999, he was furious when team GM Ozzie Newsome traded for Atlanta's 2000 first round pick after the Falcons had just played in the Super Bowl. He wanted players right away. The players Newsome was targeting fell to Baltimore the third and fourth rounds when Billick thought they would be long gone.

Meanwhile Atlanta crashed and burned in 1999 and their 2000 pick suddenly became the fifth pick overall. Baltimore used it to select Jamal Lewis from Tennessee and they had a franchise running back that would help them with the Super Bowl.

Billick never seriously questioned Newsome in the draft room again. But he should have known better. Newsome passed on talented but troubled Lawrence Phillips in 1996 and took Johnathan Ogden, one of the two best players in the history of the franchise, instead.

 

[pekurhawk]

I still can't figure out why we didn't use two pk holders this year.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

I wish you experts would spend more time analyzing and critiquing the situation with our punter and his backup. This is where the real story is. Come on. There has to be a "Deepthroat" out there.

Our starting punter has one more year of eligibilty left. As Leisitkow pointed out he averaged 35 yds/punt!! in his last 32 punts. (He punted 49 times in the regular season). Leisitkow sez Gersonde was booming his punts in his bowl practices.

If we see the same crap trotted out next year then we don't need a Deepthroat. Pretty obvious even to you apologists. If it isn't already.

Good analysis by Leisitkow re next year.

https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/2449456002

Its baffling. I'm overall a KF guy, but when you put a premium on ball control, game management, run first, solid defense gameplans....to not have have a very solid punting game is...well...indefensible.

I dont think it's a stretch to say we win at least one more game...this year...if we had good/great punting game.

It bothers me more than any other conjecture.