Fantasy Football
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HawkeyeDug
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If you drafted two backup TE you deserve a D. Sometimes rostering a second TE is forgivable, never three. You shouldn't have a backup DEF or K. You also should not have more than one backup QB.
Also, those draft grades are all but worthless. I always have a bad draft grade because I oftentimes won't even draft a Kicker if the draft app doesn't require me to. I'll just add one the days running up to opening weekend. I often won't draft A Defense either, you should just play the matchups each week.
Also, those draft grades are all but worthless. I always have a bad draft grade because I oftentimes won't even draft a Kicker if the draft app doesn't require me to. I'll just add one the days running up to opening weekend. I often won't draft A Defense either, you should just play the matchups each week.
SamBrownlee48
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12 team league. 1qb/3wr/2rb/1te/1flex/d/k/6bench. I picked 5th in a snake. Took Hopkins, Gurley, Mahomes in first 3 rounds. Some bastard stole Hockenson from me in round 9.
My top end of my roster is great, but bottom end not so much. And I don't have George Kittle in the late rounds this year.
My top end of my roster is great, but bottom end not so much. And I don't have George Kittle in the late rounds this year.
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DDThompson
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This is all good advice. TE — you don’t need a backup unless you play in a flex league and can play two TOP LEVEL TEs.
I look at DEF like a K as well. If an elite DEF falls to late middle rounds then it’s on my radar (rarely).
Otherwise, K is my last pick. DEF is second to last. Then drop/sign during bye weeks.
Northside Hawk
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I haven't played fantasy football since 2009...
...but...
How the $@%# did Pat Mahomes fall to the third round of your draft?.
In a twelve team league no less.
Is it too late for me to join your league? There must be some real cornhole's in it!
okeefe4prez
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I haven't done fairy tale football in years, but depending on how D scores, there are often 2-3 defenses that will really stand out over the course of a season. I agree it is best to try to rotate and play matchups, but if you get near the top of the standings and waiver wire runs reverse order of standings, that can get challenging. But once you get past that second or third best defense, some of which are impossible to guess preseason, the defenses typically become a wash.
JG10Hawk
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Depends on league scoring rules but nowadays QBs are not the hot commodity they once were. There are a lot of QBs putting up yards and TDs vs a decade ago when it was just a handful.
Throw in that a lot of leagues going with PPR and now it's about getting the lead RBs that get a ton of targets as well. Then top WRs that get a ton of targets. Then the couple of TEs that get a ton of targets. After that, it's either go for depth or grab your QB. Heck you can normally grab a top 5 fantasy QB in the later rounds. I've done it grabbing Goff, Rivers, Ryan, etc. the last few years near the end of the draft. Heck Mahomes went undrafted in a ton of leagues last year. Just the nature of what fantasy football has turned into.
mopkins
King Kong
QB's are mostly a non factor in fantasy football anymore. Last year Mahomes was a massive outlier, but the difference between the #2 overall QB (Big Ben) and the #12 overall QB (Kirk Cousins) was about 3 points per week. IMO they're just not worth drafting early.
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DDThompson
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Yep. Agree.
I played for a couple of years; won a league but couldn’t get the pot money. but I haven’t the last couple three.
Northside Hawk
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I can certainly concede that.
It was around the turn of the century (can't believe im using that term to reference THIS century) that most leagues went online and could be scored and updated electronically.
Does anyone remember playing when you had to call your commish if you wanted a last minute lineup change and check the Monday morning box scores to tally up the points? Scoring had to be more simple then. It would have been impossible to track everything.
okeefe4prez
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Yeah, I remember our first league was 100% based on the DM Register stats barring manifest error that you could prove. It was a big motivating factor for my dad to finally get a VCR to record ESPN prime time so he would have evidence in case the paper was wrong. Scoring was 6 pts for a TD (thrown, caught, or rushed) and 6 points for 100 yards rushing/receiving and 6 points for 300 yards passing. That was it. No defenses. It was with guys my dad worked with and you had to submit a written roster on Friday and then call the commissioner before 11:30 on Sunday morning with roster changes and then you had to call his work number and leave a message with roster changes so they were time stamped and then the co-commissioner had to audit the roster changes each week. Fucking bankers.
Me and my old man would tally up the stats each Sunday night from Prime Time and then I had to check the paper the next morning to make sure it was right. There was a standing rule that if a starting QB or RB got hurt, the owner of the injured guy automatically got the backup. That was a nice feature, but it wouldn't work today with all these 2 back offenses.
kicker22
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Great points. The other thing about the QB position worth noting is that outside of maybe the top 5 QBs the difference between average point totals is incredibly tight so there may be very little difference between weekly point totals between say the #6 rated QB and the #20 rated QB. It's become a RB and WR game as the gap between the elites and even the superstars at those positions make it worth taking those players early.
I'm in quite a few cash leagues and ironically seeing Kelce and Kittle coming off the board before some of the tier 1 QBs is becoming an increasingly common trend.
WindsorHawk
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Played 4 years. Now my (adult) son’s advisor for 3. 12-14 teams.
One league per year. Never 2.
1st regular season and 1st/2nd playoffs make money. Profitable 6 out of 7. The outlier was the 1 year of PPR. Will only play standard.
One league per year. Never 2.
1st regular season and 1st/2nd playoffs make money. Profitable 6 out of 7. The outlier was the 1 year of PPR. Will only play standard.
okeefe4prez
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Not surprising, because if you have been in a league for a few years and have run the numbers, it is clear that a marquis TE or even defense will outperform replacement value by a much larger gap than the higher QBs over the lower QBs. Back when you had Brady or Manning lighting things up while everyone else was pedestrian, you could make a season on QB if you had one of those guys, but the deltas are just too small now in most cases as long as you don't get saddled with a total turd.
Back when I played, I would keep an Excel of the points under our scoring system at the end of the season and try to weight guys based on my own VORP formula. It was really risky with defenses, but once people figured out what I was doing after a few years, my teams went from the top and always close to the championship to mediocre and I got bored with it. Hell, one year I took a defense (I think Baltimore) in round 5 and was mocked, but that defense had a bunch of 20+ point games and I ended up winning like 3 games just because of the defense. I forget the year and who it was, but I think they outscored the next defense by like 50 points under our system.
1hawkeye1
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Started a fantasy league over 20 years ago when, like OK4P says, you had to get your stats from the Register box scores. But then, Al Gore invented the interwebs and now here we are.
At one time I was in 5 different leagues. Now this year, for the first time in what seems like forever, I'm totally out of fantasy football. I hardly even watch NFL games anymore.
Fantasy football became boring to me when I finally realized that it all comes down to this; if the players you drafted stayed healthy you did well, if you had several starters get hurt, you're screwed. The game is 10% skill 90% luck.
Now I'm not slamming anyone who enjoys it. If it's your thing, great. I'm just saying it's run it's course with me.
At one time I was in 5 different leagues. Now this year, for the first time in what seems like forever, I'm totally out of fantasy football. I hardly even watch NFL games anymore.
Fantasy football became boring to me when I finally realized that it all comes down to this; if the players you drafted stayed healthy you did well, if you had several starters get hurt, you're screwed. The game is 10% skill 90% luck.
Now I'm not slamming anyone who enjoys it. If it's your thing, great. I'm just saying it's run it's course with me.
Northside Hawk
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I stopped paying a lot of attention to the NFL when the kids got a little older and I wanted to spend one day of the weekend doing family stuff. And no way was I giving up college football Saturdays. Not only did the kids get older, two of them played in Pop Warner type leagues on Sunday afternoons in September and October grades five through eight. To put the cherry on top, I got up for work at 3-3:30 am in those days and couldn't last a half of MNF. When my NFL interest waned, so did my interest in fantasy football. Now I don't miss it at all, having to keep up with waivers, transactions, message board trash talk.
That's what this message board is for.
Northside Hawk
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My best success was in a twelve team bar league, no divisions, where I got two firsts and a third in five years. That league also paid out weekly, to the top points getter, so that could add up. When I won the league it was cool to buy a beer for everything else in the league that night. Also helped pay for an engagement ring.
My longest tenured league was with guys from work for fifteen years. Got two seconds and two thirds in that league but never won the SOB.
As for that bar league, i won't mention where I finished the other two years. I can tell you it wasn't in the money. Vinny Testeverde going down for the season in week 1 killed me one year.
My longest tenured league was with guys from work for fifteen years. Got two seconds and two thirds in that league but never won the SOB.
As for that bar league, i won't mention where I finished the other two years. I can tell you it wasn't in the money. Vinny Testeverde going down for the season in week 1 killed me one year.
MelroseHawkins
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I drafted 12th and my draft got rated a B-. My David Montgomery pick didn't come thru very well last night but that was the entire inept Bears offense. They should have ridden his back more but is only his first game.
kicker22
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With the Bears defense and the score being where it was most the night, I don't see how they let Trubisky throw 45 times and only ran the ball 15 times. Absolutely mind blowing and I don't see how that could have worked out for Green Bay any better. The punter had more touches than any single one of the RB's had carries.
Looking back at it the only thing I enjoyed about the game is the number of times golden boy Rodgers got sacked. That never gets old.
