Does 21-10 (10-8) Get Us In?

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DunderMifflinHk

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Not saying this happens just that if it happens and we finish 21-10 (10-8) would that be enough to make it into the tournament? Our quality wins would be ISU, Wisc, Minn, and Illini. Not very impressive but solid. I'm thinking we would have to win 2 in the BTT. Get out of the first round and beat a top tier B10 team. That would put us at 23-11 and probably enough to get in. What do you think?
 




Certainly on The Bubble.
Depends on the mid-majors and the few Power-6 Bubble Teams.

Winning one during the BTT would help, Playing in the B1G already helps.

I think 10 is prob enough regardless of marquee wins just because of how tough the B1G is this year.
 






Teams tend to get in with that record from the Power conferences, especially when they are considered the best conference, even if they don't have a top win. It matters if they don't have terrible losses.
 


With wins over ranked Minnesota team, already won over an eventual ranked Wisconsin and possibly ranked Iowa State (who looks better than they really are) teams playing in the Big Ten that would definitely be bubble talk. Iowa doesn't have any Texas Tech-like losses (yet).
 




sportstalent said:
Teams tend to get in with that record from the Power conferences, especially when they are considered the best conference, even if they don't have a top win. It matters if they don't have terrible losses.
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Right. VA Tech is our only bad loss. At least they are from a power conference and a few games over .500. It would help if they made a run at the NIT or something. Also if we could steal a game @Wisc or @Minn it would be huge.
 


I hope the BPI means something in the selection process. We are a projected 13 seed according to the BPI rankings. They seem more accurate than the RPI, which has Illinois at 32 and Nebraska and Tennessee ahead of Iowa. A Big Ten team wih 20 wins would be hard to leave out of the tournament.
 


volhawk50 said:
I hope the BPI means something in the selection process. We are a projected 13 seed according to the BPI rankings. They seem more accurate than the RPI, which has Illinois at 32 and Nebraska and Tennessee ahead of Iowa. A Big Ten team wih 20 wins would be hard to leave out of the tournament.
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Anyone know what BPI is?
 


DunderMifflinHk said:
Anyone know what BPI is?
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BPI -The College Basketball Power Index explained - ESPN

From Article:

[h=4]System comparison[/h]How is the College Basketball Power Index by the ESPN Stats & Information group) different than RPI or other advanced rating systems like Kenpom.com and Sagarin? Here is how the included elements compare to other systems.
IncludesRPIBPISagarinKenpom
Scoring marginNoYesYesYes
Diminishing returns for blowoutsNoYesYesNo
Pace of game mattersNoYesNoYes
Home/Neutral/RoadYesYesYesYes
SOS beyond Opponent's opponents' W-LNoYesYesYes
All wins are better than losses (before Opp Adj)YesYesNoNo
De-weighting games with missing key playersNoYesNoNo

 




DunderMifflinHk said:
Right. VA Tech is our only bad loss. At least they are from a power conference and a few games over .500. It would help if they made a run at the NIT or something. Also if we could steal a game @Wisc or @Minn it would be huge.
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Losses to Power Six conference teams don't stick out as much as ones from the MEAC.

For Iowa to make the tourney now, they pretty much have to hold serve at home and Minny being the toughest team left gives some hope.

Win those and beat PSU/Nebby on the road and there are your 10 wins.

That would also mean no bad losses in conference play, so if VT is the worst loss, that can be forgiven.
 




HawkeyeRyno said:
With wins over ranked Minnesota team, already won over an eventual ranked Wisconsin and possibly ranked Iowa State (who looks better than they really are) teams playing in the Big Ten that would definitely be bubble talk. Iowa doesn't have any Texas Tech-like losses (yet).
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Who are you?
 


DunderMifflinHk said:
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Not saying this happens just that if it happens and we finish 21-10 (10-8) would that be enough to make it into the tournament? Our quality wins would be ISU, Wisc, Minn, and Illini. Not very impressive but solid. I'm thinking we would have to win 2 in the BTT. Get out of the first round and beat a top tier B10 team. That would put us at 23-11 and probably enough to get in. What do you think?
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Oh, stop it. Stop your delusional madness now. If anywhere, this team will be headed to the NIT. Again. No way it is dancing this year.

This team cannot shoot, plain and simple. You have to be able to do that to get to the NCAA. Honestly, the way this team performed against Purdue and nearly gave up its huge lead after an emotion-filled first half against Wisconsin, I think it would be better to not be selected for the NCAA tournament. Go to the NIT, go far, then re-tool for next year.
 


kmajhawk said:
Oh, stop it. Stop your delusional madness now. If anywhere, this team will be headed to the NIT. Again. No way it is dancing this year.

This team cannot shoot, plain and simple. You have to be able to do that to get to the NCAA. Honestly, the way this team performed against Purdue and nearly gave up its huge lead after an emotion-filled first half against Wisconsin, I think it would be better to not be selected for the NCAA tournament. Go to the NIT, go far, then re-tool for next year.
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Yep, they will lose at Nebraska and at Penn State if they go in shooting like that.
 




kmajhawk said:
Oh, stop it. Stop your delusional madness now. If anywhere, this team will be headed to the NIT. Again. No way it is dancing this year.

This team cannot shoot, plain and simple. You have to be able to do that to get to the NCAA. Honestly, the way this team performed against Purdue and nearly gave up its huge lead after an emotion-filled first half against Wisconsin, I think it would be better to not be selected for the NCAA tournament. Go to the NIT, go far, then re-tool for next year.
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Couldn't agree more unless someone starts shooting the ball like a major college recruit
 


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