Bigtenchamp
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get a few 3 pts leads in OT and give up easy looks every time.
its a signature
its a signature
defense fails again
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Northside Hawk
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What about the offense that overcame an eight point deficit to force OT, thanks in part to that same defense.
HaydenHawk56
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I actually put it more on Brickfort's shooting in regulation....but yes the defense sucked in OT....along with the dumb turnovers at the end. Fran's T also not helpful.
Northside Hawk
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Down two starters, he has to nut up or transfer to Drake.
Our starting five is going to be completely worn out before we're into the conference season if we get nothing from the bench.
Bigtenchamp
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to put it in perspective how bad our defense was in ot... we gave up 18 pts in OT in 5 min...
27 pts in 20 min in the 1st half.
HawkGold
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It's lack of athleticism and length. Also missing very basic fundamentals which has gone on forever under Fran. Never changes.
Someday he's going to have to recruit other than his own family, offspring of former players and a few others tied to people he knows.
The real problem is recruiting. He's lazy? Don't know except he was trying to recruit a local kid and when the Hawks came to Champaign, an assistant showed up to watch him, not Fran. Thad Motta and Bruce Webber were both there to watch this kid and of course Bates-Diopp.
Someday he's going to have to recruit other than his own family, offspring of former players and a few others tied to people he knows.
The real problem is recruiting. He's lazy? Don't know except he was trying to recruit a local kid and when the Hawks came to Champaign, an assistant showed up to watch him, not Fran. Thad Motta and Bruce Webber were both there to watch this kid and of course Bates-Diopp.
Don’t know about the signature part but yeah didn’t see the intensity on D that I saw through the entire ISU game. Maybe 3 games in 6 days could be a contributor.
HawkGold
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ISU also was just not present mentally as much as it was Iowa. Intensity helps but you still need fundamentals.
HaydenHawk56
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In terms of Off-Spring though....would have been nice to see Kingsbury get the shots that Brickfort was getting.
Bigtenchamp
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HawkGold
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Ya, but Kingsbury played with better threats and had an overall more balanced game then.
HaydenHawk56
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Ya. I agree....Fran still does not have a complete team.....I'm not sure he ever really has...in terms of being solid at every position.
HuckFinn
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Well, then I guess Fran’s teams are pretty much like everyone else’s. Dumb post, Hayden.
HaydenHawk56
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Ya, except the ones who have made the Sweet 16 or better.
HuckFinn
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Fatigue a factor? Understatement. Gard moved guys in and out the entire game. Used 10+ players. Never knew who was playing. Wore us out, plain and simple. We played a freshman, a walk on, while missing our best player and our best PG. BTW. Sanford belongs on the court. His floor game contributions are solid. We better all hope his 3’s start to fall, or we are in trouble. Keep shooting, Payton. And keep making the 2 pointers. They count, too.
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HuckFinn
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Yeah. That is one measure. Last time I checked there are lots of teams that have not made the 16.
thedukeofearl
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With recruiting, Fran is kinda in a shitty zone of recruiting good enough to get guys leaving early, but not good enough to replace them and have an elite team. Also Nunge leaving hurt worse than maybe anything that's happened with recruits so far. Other than Keegan stupidly not staying all 4 years.
