Curious of thoughts on an Urban Meyer hypothetical

With all the good and bad that comes with Urban Meyer, would you want him to take over for KF?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 51.2%

  • No

    Votes: 20 48.8%

  • On the fence

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    41
I voted yes. However Urb s TV show had high praise for our future nflers. Urb is a pr person first. His respect is about the point he was trying to make to show his skills. He also called out Iowa s offensive formation as he was pointing out the gray M defense.
 
I would sell my soul for a National Championship. SO, yes, I would absolutely take Urban.

Bob Stoops would be great.

What about Jonathon Hayes? Head coach of the St. Louis Battlehawks.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Yep, Urban respects Iowa because it is about the last decent, albeit not great, program where the head coach is basically tenured for life and is the program. Northwestern is essentially the same way. I can't fathom the shit Urb has seen in the recruiting game and what he has seen desperate coaches do to try to save their jobs or move up. And he looks at Ferentz and sees none of that. It probably makes him long for the days when you had long tenured guys all over the landscape and guys didn't get fired for going 9-3. Sometimes you just lose to a better team or because of bad luck, but the pressure that guys at the very pinnacle, like Urban, are under is because of the new instant performance regime that has taken hold in the past 15-20 years. And not just in football, but in damned near everything. But when Urban looks at Kirk, there's probably some sense of envy as to how much stability Kirk seems to have in his life.
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The last sentence pretty much nails it. There’s no doubt that Urban is envious of Kirk in that regard. At the end of the day Kirk can just coach football. Early on that’s all Urban wanted to do, but at some point it all went sideways.
 
I seriously doubt Urban would consider getting back into coaching unless it's with a school with a better than decent chance at the natty. Stoops as AD possibly. But they certainly would both know of coaches moving up in the ranks who'd better deserve a shot at Iowa more so than Brian. I'd take the next Lincoln Riley.
 
The Legend Protecting and keeping a known wife abuser on a staff is such a morally superior position than Dantonio protecting his players/abusers, Scott Frost protecting his player-abuser, and Paterno his coach/abuser.
 
DDThompson said:
The Legend Protecting and keeping a known wife abuser on a staff is such a morally superior position than Dantonio protecting his players/abusers, Scott Frost protecting his player-abuser, and Paterno his coach/abuser.
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Always strikes me how some of the KF stuff is not a big deal. How quickly we forget and diminish because it's our guy.
 
Moot point. The current donors and their successors love the Ferentz dynasty and will make sure there is one in office for the next quarter century and beyond. You can do all the mental window shopping you want, but unless you live until 2045 you ain’t gonna see a possibility of someone else.

The only way BF gets removed is if he tanks the program for ten years straight, and at that point we’re back to 1970 anyway so who cares.

Said it before, enjoy the F out of these 7-5 seasons because when junior gets the keys she’s all over but the cryin’.
 
HawkGold said:
No reason to discus as you already have your mind made up. It was bad but it was Iowa so it wasn't.
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So essentially you don't have an answer?

Every time the question of Iowa's moral compass comes up, you claim things like this and never back it up.
 
BVHawk95 said:
So essentially you don't have an answer?

Every time the question of Iowa's moral compass comes up, you claim things like this and never back it up.
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Pretty sure you know how to Google. Look up Iowa football and rape. Find the mostly non Iowa media articles on KF actions.

Both men like many of us where these things were covered up more easily. If Iowa tried this today UI would lose a coach, AD, and Pres.

I am sure there are several on this board who witnessed or participated in what is now called sexual assault of intoxicated females.

I'm not defending Urb. Just stop with the double standard stuff. It took a long ti e for society to really begin to stop shutting up rape victims and abused spouses.

Image and money have been at the forefront of football priorities over truth in the past. Iowa no different. We just haven't been as good at winning at higher profile places.

Forget even putting Iowa in the search and just use college football rape.
 
HawkGold said:
Pretty sure you know how to Google. Look up Iowa football and rape. Find the mostly non Iowa media articles on KF actions.

Both men like many of us where these things were covered up more easily. If Iowa tried this today UI would lose a coach, AD, and Pres.

I am sure there are several on this board who witnessed or participated in what is now called sexual assault of intoxicated females.

I'm not defending Urb. Just stop with the double standard stuff. It took a long ti e for society to really begin to stop shutting up rape victims and abused spouses.

Image and money have been at the forefront of football priorities over truth in the past. Iowa no different. We just haven't been as good at winning at higher profile places.

Forget even putting Iowa in the search and just use college football rape.
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I don't completely disagree with either of you and I have no skin in this, but @BVHawk95 is asking you to cite examples to support your argument and you are deflecting with the old, "look it up" deflection. That's bush league. If you're going to counter someone's point, have the testicles and intelligence to provide examples. Telling someone to "google it" is the equivalent of "because I said so." Put your big boy pants on and debate like an adult. You can do better, I've seen it.
 
He knows and you know exactly what I'm talking about. When he says he doesn't the bias is baked in.

In the end it's like a junior higher is saying to another....you have cooties and you ignore your own cooties. Cooties are make believe. It s also make believe to ignore the issues with the rape that did involve attempted and real cover up...sweeping under the rug.

We be vetted this before. The argument about look at bad Urb, bad OSU, bad OSU and so on gets tiresome.

I hate what Urb did and didn't do. I hate the environment that creates it.

We have our own cooties. It makes no sense to argue what happened anymore. It happened. KF and Barta survived and all but maybe the victim and players have moved on.

The situation today would likely be different in outcome. I am sure things like this happened under HF and before.

Times are different. Times are changing. Some of us aren't into arguing for the sake of arguing to the degree you are

I pick my fights. You never miss an opportunity.

Some are never going to believe Iowa did that. Some are going to believe everything.

My point wasn't to argue if it happened. Just tired of the big bad cootie Urb argument.
 
HawkGold said:
He knows and you know exactly what I'm talking about. When he says he doesn't the bias is baked in.

In the end it's like a junior higher is saying to another....you have cooties and you ignore your own cooties. Cooties are make believe. It s also make believe to ignore the issues with the rape that did involve attempted and real cover up...sweeping under the rug.

We be vetted this before. The argument about look at bad Urb, bad OSU, bad OSU and so on gets tiresome.

I hate what Urb did and didn't do. I hate the environment that creates it.

We have our own cooties. It makes no sense to argue what happened anymore. It happened. KF and Barta survived and all but maybe the victim and players have moved on.

The situation today would likely be different in outcome. I am sure things like this happened under HF and before.

Times are different. Times are changing. Some of us aren't into arguing for the sake of arguing to the degree you are

I pick my fights. You never miss an opportunity.

Some are never going to believe Iowa did that. Some are going to believe everything.

My point wasn't to argue if it happened. Just tired of the big bad cootie Urb argument.
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I understand the argument you're trying to make. But if you're talking about Cedric Everson and Abe Satterfield, your comparison to MSU and PSU still pales. Everson and Satterfield were removed from team activities and then from the team itself, nor can I find any evidence of KF, GB, or the Iowa Athletic Department committing any illegal or immoral actions during said case. That doesn't totally excuse them, but it also places much of the fault at the feet of the University itself.

Furthermore, the Iowa Regents hired an external law firm to investigate the University's own process and handling of the case.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/U-of-Iowa-Mishandled-Rape/41645

"accused top university officials, including Sally Mason, the president, and Phillip Jones, the vice president for student services, of distancing themselves from [the victim]"

"Investigators with the law firm, Stolar Partnership, based in Dallas and St. Louis, found several problems with how the university had responded to the allegations. Among other criticisms, they faulted the university for failing to show the letters to the Board of Regents and for not providing adequate counseling to the alleged victim when she was interviewed by university officials. They did not find signs that the university had attempted to cover up the accusations, both newspapers reported."

Very much a case of poor execution, especially considering how much has changed in how colleges handle sexual assault cases in recent years.
 
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