Cubs name Quade manager
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DuffMan
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This. They are essentially saying the job is Ryno's in two years.
HawkeyeMike23
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I sure hope Sandberg finds another job before them, he would be about my last choice to manage the Cubs.
woodyk1
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Interesting. Funny tweet that I saw out there - "Cubs honor Sandberg my not making him manage them". Even as a Cubs fan, I found myself chuckling at this. 
I wonder where Ryno will end up. I thought it might be fun to make him the bench coach for Quade, but that might be too close for comfort. He may go back to Iowa, but I am not sure if there is anything else for him to do in the minors at this point. I could be wrong about that.
I wonder where Ryno will end up. I thought it might be fun to make him the bench coach for Quade, but that might be too close for comfort. He may go back to Iowa, but I am not sure if there is anything else for him to do in the minors at this point. I could be wrong about that.
hawkfarmer
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Interesting. Funny tweet that I saw out there - "Cubs honor Sandberg my not making him manage them". Even as a Cubs fan, I found myself chuckling at this.
I wonder where Ryno will end up. I thought it might be fun to make him the bench coach for Quade, but that might be too close for comfort. He may go back to Iowa, but I am not sure if there is anything else for him to do in the minors at this point. I could be wrong about that.
I think that he needs to be in the organization somewhere so when the 2 year deal is done with Quade, he can just step in. I'm hoping bench coach.
Hawkfromnorwalk
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I don't like it at all. Should have waited to gauge Girargi's interest first. Also what becomes of Ryno? He's already been rumored to be interviewing for other positions. I think this was the worse move the Rickett's family could have made. Looks like it'll be more of the same from the new ownership. They needed to do something to re-energize the fans, this does nothing for me.
DuffMan
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My guess is Ryno will manage the AAA ballclub next year and move into a bench coach role to start the 2012 season. If the Cubs feel Sandberg is managerial material at that point he will be offered the position in 2013, if he's not he will leave the organization.
It's really a good move, if for no other reason than Q has little to no ego which means he won't be threatened by Ryno's shadow hanging over him. If the Cubs wen't to Q tomorrow and asked him to be the AA bullpen catcher he would do it.
It's really a good move, if for no other reason than Q has little to no ego which means he won't be threatened by Ryno's shadow hanging over him. If the Cubs wen't to Q tomorrow and asked him to be the AA bullpen catcher he would do it.
bws258
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I am surprised they didn't wait to make a run at Girardi. That said, if they weren't going to get Joe, then good for the Cubs on hiring Q! I thought for sure they'd submit to the fan pressure to hire Sandberg, instead of hiring the right guy for the job. I love Ryno, but Q has earned it. I hope Ryno's ego will allow him to accept a job as the 3rd base coach or bench coach if Q offers either spot to him.
What if Quade surpasses expectations though? Just saying, no one is a lock in 2 years because if he is successful with a patchwork team of youngsters and aging stars you can't automatically replace him in two years. I am ok with the hire, not sure if anyone could do much better than Quade at this point with this team. The Cubs are a business, and one way to build loyalty within any business is to reward the guys who have given their life to your biz and done it the right way. It tells everyone else in the organization your hard work may pay off later so bust your butt. I want to say Ricketts sees the long term view of not just building a team from year to year but actually building a first class business/organization from Rookie ball to the Majors much like the Twins. Give him a couple years to change the culture throughout the whole business and fix what the Trib screwed all up and see where we are. Quade is a great guy and seems to have the players respect. Congrats to the underdog for winning one!
HawkeyeMike23
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Ryne Sandberg is going to make a horrible big league manager, the Cubs hiring him would be a disaster. Girardi is nothing special either, and Quade is several mil cheaper, and he knows the team. It's a great move and just what the Cubs needed.
woodyk1
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I am just curious because I respect your opinion - what makes you think Sandberg will not be a good manager? I am not sure, but I thought he has put his time in (more than some other managers, like Garardi) and he may have a chance to be successful.
hawkfarmer
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Why, Girardi was going to be really expensive and want a long term deal. Quade is cheap and leaves the door open for Ryno in 2 years. If he wins then they can keep him. Girardi should be in the playoffs every year, look at the talent they have. I know the cubs spent money too, but not on the skill level that the Yankees do.
What evidence do you have of this? All he has done in AAA is have a winning club, and to do that with all the call ups the Cubs had this year was pretty impressive. To say he'd be horrible or great is the dumbest statment until after he's been in the bigs and proven it. That said I'd love to see Ryno get his shot in 2 years, but I think Quade will do a good job, evidence of what he did at the end of the year.
HawkeyeMike23
Banned
He plays small ball way too much, he loves the sacrifice bunt, he likes to hit and run. He basically gives away outs at an alarming rate, he's against a lot of the advanced statistics. He's way too old school in a lot of his thinking, he also has never even been on a major league coaching staff at any point. It's one thing to deal with minor league players who are in their teens or early 20's, it's another thing to deal with grown men who are multi-millionaires. He can have a bit of an ego and I think he would rub a lot of the players the wrong way over the course of the season.
Also, the Cubs are not going to be title contenders for the next year or two as they are in the process of getting much younger. Having Sandberg guide the team through a couple of rough years could lead to a lot of frustration with fans who feel that it's his fault the Cubs aren't winning and could lead to the Cubs having to fire a legendary player which would be a messy situation all the way around.
HawkeyeMike23
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First of all, winning at the AAA level is more of a reflection of the large collection of AAAA players the Cubs have than Sandberg's managerial skills. Luckily for the Cubs they have way too many 30 year old journeymen playing minor league ball (Scales, Hoffpauir, Kelton, Tracy, Dubois). This makes for above average AAA teams, but doesn't help the organization.
hawkfarmer
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Most teams have those kinds of players, they can't all be at the majors. And since when is having a bunch of 30 year old- can't make the majors- a good thing. He may play small ball, but it depends on the personnel. I'm just saying until he gets his shot, you just don't know.
HawkeyeMike23
Banned
I was joking about it being a good thing, and the Cubs have a larger number of them than a lot of other teams. Dubois, Hoffpauir and Kelton have been in the system seemingly forever, time to cut them loose. And I don't think it does depend on the personel, that's just the way he likes to manage, and it's not a good way to do it. No one would be clamoring for him to get this job if it wasn't for his playing career, and that should have no impact on this decision.
