As written, it would violate most NCAA rules I believe. I don't think the schools can directly pay the players but players can sign contracts with businesses at whatever rate they want. Ultimately, it all comes from the same place, but I thought the rule prohibited schools from being directly involved.
Creighton NIL Deal for every scholarship player
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ChosenChildren
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it is reliable in my humble opinion. I not going to compromise the person in any way.
I think if you did a little homework you could find this out independently.
NIL is insane because there are no limits. Even pro leagues have limits.
This is the kind of stuff Iowa should be doing. With all the TV revenue money Iowa receives, Barta should give Fran $1 million a year, and Kirk $6 million in "NIL" money. This would break down to about $70K per scholarship player on top of the room, board, tuition money. Manage it like a salary cap, some kids maybe get $25k, other kids could get $150K, etc. I think at a place like Iowa, you don't have to be throwing million dollar NIL deals at the average recruit, but for the occasional 5* (Proctor now in football, guys like Harrison Barnes in the past), having a pool of dollars may be enough to convince them to stay, even at a slight hometown discount.
Seth53
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I'm a scientist type of guy...i.e. I look numbers, stats, etc. Been published a few times, blah blah.
It's way too early to tell if higher NIL is going to be a cause and effect to better winning program.
Give this 5 years to shake out, then, see how it correlates. It may even take 10 year's worth of data to establish a true C/E...if there is one.
It's way too early to tell if higher NIL is going to be a cause and effect to better winning program.
Give this 5 years to shake out, then, see how it correlates. It may even take 10 year's worth of data to establish a true C/E...if there is one.
okeefe4prez
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NIL money can't come from the school. Title IX would also require matching funds to the womens' teams.
Fryowa
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There’s not going to be any way to analyze data, though. Some of these deals are made public but obviously a lot of them aren’t. Some of it is straight up money, some is material stuff like houses, cars, etc. Like Kadyn Proctor posted on his Instagram that some local dealership gave him a Grand Cherokee. How are you going to track that kind of thing? There’s really no way to track anything and put a value on it.
There isn’t anywhere that will say, XYZ program spent $ABC dollars on NIL. It comes from private individual boosters, collectives, national sponsors, local business sponsors…there’s too much noise.
okeefe4prez
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Agreed. Plus we only know headline numbers, not actual. There's no uniform data feed so there's no way to build a reputable model.
Seth53
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Obviously one can't measure what isn't known, but, one could build a C/E model based upon what is known.
Because.....
I *do* see a day where the NIL will be mandated to be made public or else...then the model can be constructed.
Even with that...say Proctor goes to Oregon...how do you equate that one move to +/- for Oregon/Iowa...you can't....too many confounders.
Fryowa
Administrator
Who’s going to create and enforce it though?
The NCAA has already seen what a nightmare it’d be and said, “I’m out,” and the Supreme Court has already said kids are free to have at it.
The genie is outta the bottle. There’s no way they’re going to enforce limitations after the fact and take back something that kids already had. Any attempt at enforcing regulations is gonna get destroyed in the court of public opinion as an attempt to oppress athletes whether it is or not.
This is why Mark Emmert and his predecessors should’ve compromised decades ago when they had the chance.
HuckFinn
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So. What “limitations” are you talking about? Give me a list. Of course limitations could be addressed through legal approaches. It ain’t over ‘till it’s over.
