HawkeyeMHA
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Fumble in the red zone and you will continue setting. Maybe they are teaching him something...
Coker is clearly tired and yet McCall sits
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Fumble in the red zone and you will continue setting. Maybe they are teaching him something...
HawkeyeMHA
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No ******* **** man. We annoit this kid as the saviour of football based on six carries, call for the conferences leading rusher to give up carries, then he fumbles on the five yardline and again the coaches are in error. JHC
HawkeyeMHA
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^this. all ive heard about for the last month is "when can mccall come back", "why isn't he playing" "he needs carries".... bull ****, you have the conferences leading rusher, dont worry about a freshamn with six carries coming off a broken ankle. He fumbles on the five and we are still calling for him....amazing
DeanMarshall
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LOL
For most of the season, you've had the '2nd running back' should be playing fan, so they finally insert McCall in an easy situation and he screws it up.
Nice game by COker, once again today
WinOneThisCentury
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McCall should have gotten another chance. He's earned it and if you commit to play him, play him. This is KF's issue. Young players make mistakes, but obviously you see something in him in practice, so 2 carries? It makes no sense. Coker put the ball on the ground twice in the first game and another at Iowa State. It happens. Play him if he's earned it and live with youthful mistakes. If the same reasoning holds, he should have benched Vandenburg when he got happy feet in the end zone and fumbled for a touchdown. No, he was allowed to make up for it.
WinOneThisCentury
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I don't know what game everyone was watching, but Coker looked a step or two slow yesterday. I love it when everyone tries to compare him to Shonn Greene. Greene would have had 250 yards in that game yesterday. Any college back needs to be spelled. We haven't done that in how long? 10 games?
IMO, Canzeri would have been perfect yesterday with the quickness...but where is Johnson? If KF benched McCall, why not Johnson. You have to give Coker a series off a few times a game at least.
IMO, Canzeri would have been perfect yesterday with the quickness...but where is Johnson? If KF benched McCall, why not Johnson. You have to give Coker a series off a few times a game at least.
busabus114
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Canzeri was banged up and KF obviously doesnt trust anyone else. He would rather roll with a tired Coker right or wrong
It wont change this year
WinOneThisCentury
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Yeah, I knew Canzeri didn't make the trip, but if you won't play McCall because of the fumble...play someone else. My god, they practice every day for the game. KF's butt is so puckered up in close games it's beyond me.
Guess what, the conservative approached hasn't worked in 8 of the last 10 close games we have played. What do we have to lose at this juncture. Who knows, maybe McCall comes back in and breaks a big run to make up for the mistake.
Guess what, the conservative approached hasn't worked in 8 of the last 10 close games we have played. What do we have to lose at this juncture. Who knows, maybe McCall comes back in and breaks a big run to make up for the mistake.
busabus114
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We won
iowafincity
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Or maybe he comes back in and fumbles again leading to a purdue score...
Here's the deal folks and keep in mind that I was calling for Coker last year about 3 games in to be the starter and btw, anyone still think Arob is better than Coker?
Every good team in the country uses 2 and 3 running backs. EVERY SINGLE GOOD TEAM. Why do you think that is? Here it is. You have your workhorse but you also have some young guys typically. So you play them as much as possible in the early games. You give them confidence. You make them feel like once they get their chance, they will be a thousand yard back. That way, when your workhorse needs a blow, you have fresh backs come in and they're thinking "it's show time".
However, by refusing to use them early in the season and in good situations early on, you create doubt in their minds. What happens if Coker goes down right now? We have a bunch off scared and shaky running backs. Anyone remember how Coker looked against Minnesota last year?
What you have to look at with each and every kid, is how much can we get out of this guy? Once you have a feel for that, it's up to the coaches to make that kid believe he can do more. I want freshman running-backs feeling like they should be starting, because when they get in there, they play to their ability.
Coker is the workhorse. He's a 230lb solid man. Why do you sit him inside the 10 yard line to bring in a guy that you claim has been healthy for 3 weeks and yet haven't played him. You've created doubt in the kid's mind and now when he gets a chance, he forgets to tie his shoes(figuratively speaking).
I guarantee you, that either Johnson, Bullock, Canzeri or McCall will be gone after the season. You need to spread the cheese. You need to keep kids interested in the program.
And by spreading the cheese, you make Coker feel like every play is crucial and he performs even better.
Every good team in the country uses 2 and 3 running backs. EVERY SINGLE GOOD TEAM. Why do you think that is? Here it is. You have your workhorse but you also have some young guys typically. So you play them as much as possible in the early games. You give them confidence. You make them feel like once they get their chance, they will be a thousand yard back. That way, when your workhorse needs a blow, you have fresh backs come in and they're thinking "it's show time".
However, by refusing to use them early in the season and in good situations early on, you create doubt in their minds. What happens if Coker goes down right now? We have a bunch off scared and shaky running backs. Anyone remember how Coker looked against Minnesota last year?
What you have to look at with each and every kid, is how much can we get out of this guy? Once you have a feel for that, it's up to the coaches to make that kid believe he can do more. I want freshman running-backs feeling like they should be starting, because when they get in there, they play to their ability.
Coker is the workhorse. He's a 230lb solid man. Why do you sit him inside the 10 yard line to bring in a guy that you claim has been healthy for 3 weeks and yet haven't played him. You've created doubt in the kid's mind and now when he gets a chance, he forgets to tie his shoes(figuratively speaking).
I guarantee you, that either Johnson, Bullock, Canzeri or McCall will be gone after the season. You need to spread the cheese. You need to keep kids interested in the program.
And by spreading the cheese, you make Coker feel like every play is crucial and he performs even better.
iowafincity
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I think you should coach college football
WinOneThisCentury
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or maybe JVB throws and interception or maybe Guthrie goes to punt and puts his foot in someone's arse. If the guys has earned the playing time in practice you play him and live with the mistakes. Do you think McCall was saying, "gee coach, I'm just not ready". I don't think so.
Droid's post was right on. Not playing him is a destroyer of confidence and a betrayal of trust in your player.
HawkPrdatr40
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I agree Droid and there is no doubt in my mind that McCall got raw deal yesterday. I'm willing to bet McCall was none to pleased these last 2 to 3 weeks. 2 carries since being cleared?? Pathetic. What that Staff did to him yesterday was terrible, he should have been giving the chance to get back in. There was PLENTY OF MISTAKES happening by all yesterday.. Sad if you ask me.
iowafincity
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So your gunna put Weinke in if JVB throws an INT? Point is you have Coker who hasn't fumbled in 250 carries. It was a close game, I'm sure if McCall didn't fumble he would have kept playing.
WinOneThisCentury
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No, I'm not putting Weinke in because I have confidence and trust with JVB...that's the point with McCall. If I'm willing to play him at all, that means he's earned it with his play in practice. He makes a mistake and I bench him and wear down my already gassed #1 back.
KF has issues with this and always has. He is way too amped about playing freshmen. For God's sake, he had Paki ahead of Arob and Wegher against UNI. How'd that work out. Herman and Derby ahead of CJ. Who looks better to you?
KF has issues with this and always has. He is way too amped about playing freshmen. For God's sake, he had Paki ahead of Arob and Wegher against UNI. How'd that work out. Herman and Derby ahead of CJ. Who looks better to you?
iowafincity
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You guys are weak minded people. "oh give the guy another chance" boo who, he ****ed up, you don't get another chance in a close game if youndo that.
No freshman is gunna earn the right to play when you have an all big 10 back in front of you and you come in and cost the team 3 or 7 points.
Turning it over In The red zone is a sin in football.
No freshman is gunna earn the right to play when you have an all big 10 back in front of you and you come in and cost the team 3 or 7 points.
Turning it over In The red zone is a sin in football.
