Coaching over recruiting

icwesthawkeye

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When push comes to shove gentlemen, and ladies, Iowa needs to get a coach over a recruiter. Iowa will always have the pressure of taking Iowa kids, even when they might not be the most athletic. Look at these boards regarding local kids who may or may not be prospects for major college basketball, everyone thinks that the local kid can really be good and that Iowa would be making a huge mistake not offering him.

Iowa could not have passed on Cougill. He may or may not be a huge contributor, I think he will, but we cannot afford to have him go to Iowa State or Drake or UNI. These boards are going to melt down if Creekmur turns out to be even a modest player at AZ State. Even guys like Ali, a local Iowa City kid, at UNI or Van Deest at Drake, people already criticize Iowa for offering scholarships to them, our coaches can't evaluate talent.

My long winded point is we will always have Iowa kids and we should. We need a coach who can get the best out of them. Then we need someone to fill in the missing spots with kids from around the area, especially Chicago. I liked Lick coming in for those reasons and he ****** the bed, not so much with recruiting, he was getting better, but with coaching. It turned out he wasn't the great coach he was billed to be. Get a coach with a good recruiting assistant, that's what Iowa needs, IMHO.
 
Nope talent is going to win 75% of the time reguardless of how good the other coach is....we need a recruiter end of story.
 
Disagree completely. If our coach can't recruit, and all we can get are Iowa kids while the top players in the state are going elsewhere, we are going to be in trouble. There isn't enough talent in the state to go around. That means the coach is going to have to be able to cross the state borders and grab some players from Illinois, Minnesota, etc. To do that, said coach needs to be strong in the recruiting department if he is going to get players to come and play for Iowa who didn't grow up dreaming of being Hawkeyes.

We need someone that can sell ice to eskimos.
 
We need someone that can sell ice to eskimos.
This. How does anyone think Scott Drew got kids into Baylor when the Fame, Power, Prestige etc. of all other Texas schools stood in his path?

Iowa can get great recruits too if the coach can sell Meatloaf @ $35/slice to vegetarians.
 
We need a coach that can recruit, that's obvious, but hiring a guy who can only recruit isn't going to help us. Look at Paul Hewitt at Georgia Tech or Rick Barnes at Texas, both of their teams have top NBA level talent year in and year out and consistently under achieve. Iowa probably isn't going to be able to attract the same level of talent that Atlanta and Austin attract, so we need someone who can also coach that talent and compete against Izzo, Ryan, Painter, Matta and all the other talented coaches in the Big Ten.
 
That may have been true 15 years, but in today's world of college basketball, elite-level recruiting is what makes the difference.
There's a reason Kansas has only four players on a roster of 17 from the state of Kansas - the state is not a hotbed for recruiting. To compete with the best, you have to recruit the best.

George Raveling was known as a recruiter. In three years at the helm, he reeled in B.J. Armstrong, Roy Marble, Kevin Gamble, Ed Horton and the infamous Les Jepsen, just to name a few, providing one of the most memorable eras in the past quarter century for Hawkeye basketball.

Iowa kids are exactly what Iowa doesn’t need, unless you’re talking about a Harrison Barnes, Kirk Hinrich or Nick Collison. Where did they go again?

Iowa needs a head coach with experience recruiting for a major conference team. If the Hawks don’t get that, they’re looking at several more years below .500, and a fan base ready to prematurely cut this X’s and O’s guy loose, too.
 
Obviously both is the best scenerio. But, Iowa now needs talent to get fans in the stands again. If we get a great recruiter but the coach doesn't coach the X's & O's that well over the years, at least the foundation is set to make a change with talent already established. But, what Iowa really needs is a coach which can relate with young people or with a personality on the sidelines. Something to infuse or bring excitement to the program or some national attention. Iowa needs a character for its next coach to lure some attention. Even a fine line with controversy might be acceptable at this point.
 

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