Clapgate



Typical MSU...I should have know what was going on when the MSU linebacker when down in Nebraska's last drive with a phony injury and he kept clapping when he was on the ground. Those bastards.
 


I think the most logical and universally accepted solution to this is to ban both coaches for life and shut down both programs.
 


deanvogs said:
Kind of torn on this. Dantonio is a dirty, smarmy coach, that is for sure. He would play a kid who just assaulted his grandma and not think twice about it.

At the same time, if the O can use hand claps to signal plays, why can't the D?
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Thing is, what can the D signal by clapping? It makes sense for the offense since they initiate the action of a play and it's part of the initiation sequence. The D can't initiate anything, so a signal like that makes no sense.
 


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I just can't believe that UN's AD didn't come out after the game and accuse the B1G officials of a massive conspiracy to keep them down.
 


hawkfan340 said:
Thing is, what can the D signal by clapping? It makes sense for the offense since they initiate the action of a play and it's part of the initiation sequence. The D can't initiate anything, so a signal like that makes no sense.
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If they have some sort of a stem called or if they have an automatic at a certain point in a presnap progression (motion, etc.) they need to give some sort of signal to shift/stem. Most teams will yell shift, motion, etc. My guess is at some point someone said, "Hey, we should change our stem signal to a clap and maybe throw off the offense." I, for one, don't feel that a clap should be considered an offense only signal. I honestly fell that the league office should rule on it and say one way or another, instead of the game officials, because it isn't exactly black and white (like yelling "hut", etc. would be). Nebby could have easily changed their snap-ready indicator and it would have been over. Pelini's either too stubborn, stupid, or, to be redundant, has lived in Nebraska too long.
 


deanvogs said:
At the same time, if the O can use hand claps to signal plays, why can't the D?
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Go find me any tape of MSU defensive players using clap signals prior to the Nebraska game. Otherwise, they are cheating, which is par for the course with coach POS.
 




Sure, wouldn't surprise me. Dantonio seems like a scumbag win at all costs type of guy. But does little red lose to sparty because of this? No so s t f u nebtards
 


99topdawg said:
If they have some sort of a stem called or if they have an automatic at a certain point in a presnap progression (motion, etc.) they need to give some sort of signal to shift/stem. Most teams will yell shift, motion, etc. My guess is at some point someone said, "Hey, we should change our stem signal to a clap and maybe throw off the offense." I, for one, don't feel that a clap should be considered an offense only signal. I honestly fell that the league office should rule on it and say one way or another, instead of the game officials, because it isn't exactly black and white (like yelling "hut", etc. would be). Nebby could have easily changed their snap-ready indicator and it would have been over. Pelini's either too stubborn, stupid, or, to be redundant, has lived in Nebraska too long.
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Why should a team have to change their snap indicator when it's a penalty for the defense to simulate it? That doesn't make any sense. That's like telling Iowa in the middle of a game that they can't say anything anymore and instead they have to clap. How well do you think that would go over?
 








I'm sure MSU isn't the only team doing it.... It's gamesmanship. Should anyone do it? No it's petty. But this is the same school that fakes injuries left and right in the 4th qs of games when their D is tired playing against a hurry up O.... Dantonio has a good enough team to not need to pull that crap but it is what it is....
 




Hawkfnntn said:
I'm sure MSU isn't the only team doing it.... It's gamesmanship. Should anyone do it? No it's petty. But this is the same school that fakes injuries left and right in the 4th qs of games when their D is tired playing against a hurry up O.... Dantonio has a good enough team to not need to pull that crap but it is what it is....
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It really is not gamesmanship to simulate the offenses snap counts , it is a penalty. Doing it several times is cheating.

It is gamesmanship in football to use jumbo packages, shift and throw a tackle eligible pass for a TD.
 


I am conflicted because on the one hand that is cheating but on the other hand **** Nebraska. Ill go with my instincts and say **** Nebraska.
 




uihawk82 said:
It really is not gamesmanship to simulate the offenses snap counts , it is a penalty. Doing it several times is cheating.

It is gamesmanship in football to use jumbo packages, shift and throw a tackle eligible pass for a TD.
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Sure its against the rules but the reason he's using for doing it without saying so is that it's gamesmanship and it's his way of trying to get one up on them. Like holding and it not being called or PI etc... If you coach your DBs to grab the receiver every single time they are beat deep because a 15 flag is better then a TD or spot of the foul penalty like it is in the pros is that not the same thing? That's breaking the rules on purpose to benefit yourself and it can just as easily be done both ways.
 


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