I have seen kids in flag football break more tackles than this kid.
Watch him and his routes and then compare him to brandon myers or scott scandler. You can see who gets open and who cant find an opening. I would rather see hamilton out there.
CJ Fiedorowicz
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Watch him and his routes and then compare him to brandon myers or scott scandler. You can see who gets open and who cant find an opening. I would rather see hamilton out there.
tubahawk
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My bad.As was mine.
whammer33024
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i actually don't have that big of a problem with you and some of your thoughts do get me thinking. but when you throw out ridiculous statements like that its pretty hard to take you seriously sometimes
FreedComanche
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Ok, and not to cause a rile out of you, but do you think any other team would not take full advantage of a mismatch situation like that?
whammer33024
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i'd like to see how he does in practice before i make statements like that. i'd like to know just how well he understands what he's supposed to be doing each play. i'd like to see how hard he works at practice before making statements like that.
but just to say KF doesn't take advantages of mismatches is ridiculous to me. how many times did we throw a fade to mcnutt? why? because he had an advantage over the defender
but just to say KF doesn't take advantages of mismatches is ridiculous to me. how many times did we throw a fade to mcnutt? why? because he had an advantage over the defender
FreedComanche
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Well, is it really that complicated? You got a big tight end that most d-backs can't cover well simply because of the height difference.
MiniMoeHawk
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CJ is not overhyped. TE's would be valuable if GD ever threw the ball inside the seams. How many times a game have you seen a post route? If middle of the field is ever used you will see how talented CJF really is
FreedComanche
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I guess that's what I was trying to say. Frustrating.
99topdawg
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Can't do this and still give the ball to Canzieri every play. He's that good.
STILLBUSTER
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Once again, the apologists drone on and on in generalities, oblivious to the specific point.
No one is clamoring for CJ to be the "go to" guy between the 20's. No one is claiming CJ is the best blocking TE to play the position at Iowa. The POINT is that he is an incredible midrange mismatch which would make him a perfect target in the red zone. See ISU, last season -- all things the same, that game was lost specifically because they did not even target him in the red-zone during what should have beenthe go ahead, game-winning TD.
(See drive at end of 3rd and beginning of 4th vs. ISU -- rode CJ down the field on completions of 18 and 20 yards. At 1st / goal from ISU's 3, they go "Fetal-Ferentz" and rush left (f-ing short-side) 2x to Bullock for nothing then throw to Weisman in the right flat -- the exact area where CJ should have been the target.)
That series removed all doubt of the ignorance of Gerg Davis regarding appropriate, situational use of the TE, especially one who is 6'7" tall.
But hey, no harm done, because, after all, CJ doesn't always find and stick with his block up to Kirt's expectation, so, obviously he's worthless in every other strategical facet of the game, right? Oh and, yeah, ya gotta see him in practice to make sure he's selling out, 100% effort, on every play, like every player does, because, as long as you're working hard, that completely defines your worthiness and trumps anything physical attributes and athletic abilities could possibly contribute toward victory.
No one is clamoring for CJ to be the "go to" guy between the 20's. No one is claiming CJ is the best blocking TE to play the position at Iowa. The POINT is that he is an incredible midrange mismatch which would make him a perfect target in the red zone. See ISU, last season -- all things the same, that game was lost specifically because they did not even target him in the red-zone during what should have beenthe go ahead, game-winning TD.
(See drive at end of 3rd and beginning of 4th vs. ISU -- rode CJ down the field on completions of 18 and 20 yards. At 1st / goal from ISU's 3, they go "Fetal-Ferentz" and rush left (f-ing short-side) 2x to Bullock for nothing then throw to Weisman in the right flat -- the exact area where CJ should have been the target.)
That series removed all doubt of the ignorance of Gerg Davis regarding appropriate, situational use of the TE, especially one who is 6'7" tall.
But hey, no harm done, because, after all, CJ doesn't always find and stick with his block up to Kirt's expectation, so, obviously he's worthless in every other strategical facet of the game, right? Oh and, yeah, ya gotta see him in practice to make sure he's selling out, 100% effort, on every play, like every player does, because, as long as you're working hard, that completely defines your worthiness and trumps anything physical attributes and athletic abilities could possibly contribute toward victory.
imported_ankle23
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exactly. i think there are more issues with the kid as well, some that i won't say because i don't want to bash on the kid.
DBAHawkFan
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I think maybe ONCE....and it went for a TD against Nebraska. It was wide open too, which isn't surprising considering every defense we play schemes against the short, wide passes.
Not saying our plays never send a TE down the middle, but doesn't seem to be that way. I would like to think with JR as our QB, he's a little more likely to go through progressions (he's done it a few times....and other times not so much).
Our offense would be a little more efficient if we used 100% of the field, or maybe even 50%!!!! Right now it's about 25% which is sidelines, and 3 yards out from LOS
The thing with receptions is that the QB has to throw it to you first. He actually had a good year last year. 45 receptions. His yardage and TDs were not good but that was a product of the offense being so bad and the QB. I don't know how many times I've seen him open and they didn't throw it to him. I think Vandenberg forgot to even look at him in the endzone.
SamBrownlee48
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CJF runs crappy routes, doesn't read the defense well to adjust those routes, and therefore is not open on most plays. On those few plays where he is open and gets the ball, he always goes down on first contact.
The reason CJF has not performed up to expectations over his career as a hawkeye has been CJF. He has become a decent blocker over time, but he is not the special player that people want him to be. He might make an NFL roster because of his size and blocking, but he is no Moaki, Clark, Myers, or Chandler.
The reason CJF has not performed up to expectations over his career as a hawkeye has been CJF. He has become a decent blocker over time, but he is not the special player that people want him to be. He might make an NFL roster because of his size and blocking, but he is no Moaki, Clark, Myers, or Chandler.
FreedComanche
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He'll make it in the nfl because they'll use him as a TE is supposed to be used.
Ok so he is rated as one of the top TEs in college because of how bad he does all those things?
I take it you blame Davis?
FreedComanche
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It's not like I wanna blame anybody. It's just that are folks who no more about football than me say two things about him: 1) He was open a lot last year and was missed by jvb. 2) He is not targeted nearly enough as his size creates a mismatch every time he's on the field.
