CJ Bethard?

FoolishFellow

FoolishFellow

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I'm not saying that last week was all Rudock's fault, but Bethard at least deserves some play time today. It's infuriating that he gets promised play time, but instead we get to watch check-down Jake all day.
 
Right, wrong, or otherwise; as long as this game is close, for your health, don't hold your breath. CJB will be 1st team clipboard holder.
 
I don't care at all about this team anymore, and I'm definitely not getting stressed about it. Jesus christ though, after that last drive... Please put Bethard in.
 
LOL, Rudock is the John Deere something something of the game. Great. Also, if I hear anyone use the phrase "game manager" ever again, I'm going to explode. "Game manager" is the most meaningless phrase in college football. It's a nice way of saying that your QB isn't very good.
 
eveningnewsteam said:
Outside the fumbled snaps, who knows who's fault they were, Rudock has been good today.
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Rudock has been okay today outside the fumbled snaps... but his performance against Iowa State, Maryland, and especially MN will forever be inexcusable. That's not even counting his performance against Michigan State and Wisconsin last year.

I could care less if Rudock shows us he can beat a crappy Illinois team, Rudock has yet to show us that he is capable of beating a good team in his career.
 
FoolishFellow said:
Rudock has been okay today outside the fumbled snaps... but his performance against Iowa State, Maryland, and especially MN will forever be inexcusable. That's not even counting his performance against Michigan State and Wisconsin last year.

I could care less if Rudock shows us he can beat a crappy Illinois team, Rudock has yet to show us that he is capable of beating a good team in his career.
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relax. I said today
 
It's almost as if KF is trying to prove to us that he knows best with JR, but each and every week he looks quite the opposite. CJB is the better QB and it really isn't even a DEBATE..
 
Can't wait to watch Rudock start next week. Lose against Wisconsin really bad. Then finally start Bethard against Nebraska and win.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
It's almost as if KF is trying to prove to us that he knows best with JR, but each and every week he looks quite the opposite. CJB is the better QB and it really isn't even a DEBATE..
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Of course it's not a debate -- debate means an open exchange of rational arguments, ideally, with the most logical, substantiated argument prevailing and being accepted as the better conclusion, resolution, or course of action.

This is an authoritarian autocracy that ignores evidence and reason.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
It's almost as if KF is trying to prove to us that he knows best with JR, but each and every week he looks quite the opposite. CJB is the better QB and it really isn't even a DEBATE..
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No debate at all. the only question surrounds kfootballs personnel decisions. and just where the hell was this last week when we were down only 21-7. if you ask me, jr has played average or well below, in 6 of the last 8 quarters. I think it's the fans fault cj isn't the starter because we were too boisterous in our support for him and kfootball won't allow it to appear he cow-towed to the fans.
 
I keep seeing the same thing with Jake - he locks on and his placement on intermediate or deep balls with coverage around is almost always off, just by a little, but it's off.

For instance, in the first quarter, Martin-Manley had his guy beat and Jake tossed it to him and hit KMM in the numbers. Pass was okay, as it was on the receiver and catchable, but the placement was around the breadbasket and its placement was such that the defender could have made a play, which he did and it went for an incompletion. Had it been thrown to the back shoulder, which is the proper placement, it would have been a TD. Contrast that to CJ's TD pass - it was thrown right into the perfect window.

I don't know what CJ's other faults are that Kurt gets to see, but it just seems to me that on intermediate and deep passes, his placement is just very, very solid. To my eye, it looks like the best I've seen out of an Iowa QB going back to maybe Mark Vlasic and being able to toss it through that window from 30+ yards away is an absolute necessity given the way the game has changed. Stanzi had decent accuracy, but a lot of his deep passes were a result of us just having someone wide open and they didn't require really perfect throws.

It is a small difference between the guys, but I've seen enough of Jake to know that he is never going to develop that touch and accuracy. CJ has a really special arm (but I'll be the first to admit that if his head isn't right or he doesn't stay within the playbook and system, that alone isn't enough to win games).
 
FoolishFellow said:
Can't wait to watch Rudock start next week. Lose against Wisconsin really bad. Then finally start Bethard against Nebraska and win.
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You know that won't happen. Win lose or draw JR. is the starter. If he was our backup I think we would have the best backup,in the big ten. Interesting how AW fumbles, we'll not actually, and gets yanked. Yet our starting Qb fumbles 2 snaps and he has free reign. AW is also, the better 1,2 punch with 45, but yet we will see very little of him until he is a Senior. Just enough to see the promise, but not enough to,prove he is the best. Hey we won though beating a terrible Illini team. Defense looked improved, but Alston is awful in coverage still. You'd think a defensive coordinator could figure out a scheme where our MLB doesn't have to cover in space. Just imagine this, Melvin Gordon vs Alston in space, cause that is what we are going to see next week. It won't be pretty.
 
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