Chuck Hartlieb - "Mark Weisman wouldn't have started for Drake"

SteveGarvey said:
I believe Chuck meant he wouldn't start for Drake at halfback which probably would be true. If Drake uses a fullback, he'd be a kick *** one there.
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I know what he meant. Weisman averaged over 4 yards a carry as a halfback in the Big 10. You really think he couldn't do that or better playing non-scholarship football? Kiper has him as the #4 FB in this draft class. He'd have been a kick *** fullback at Iowa too.
 
hwk23 said:
No, Sunshine has a better completion % than JR for passes over 10 yards. JR completes short passes at a higher %. That could be due to more reps with the 1st team.
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I just think his overall sample size hasn't been enough to grade honestly... He's played what 2 full games? Against Purdue and Pitt... It's not fair to fully grade him on that because like what's been said in the Pitt game his receivers did him no favors... But I haven't seen his body of work in practice to know his chemistry with the receivers. And other then that what else would there be to go on? As I said maybe it's his accuracy maybe not but I want to see more of him.
 
I have no issue with the amount of carries Weisman had. I have huge issue his coach did not put him in the best position to succeed by asking him to do things that were incompatible with his athleticism and skills.

Weisman would have easily had 100+ more yards this year if he simply would have had more power calls to Scherff's side. Cripes, he might have had 100 + more against Maryland, alone, if they would have been smart enough to stick with the rushing attack that would have won them the f-ing game! (MW was 7.8 ypc and was only given the ball 10 times!)

The sidebar to the Mark Weisman story will always be what an appalling mismatch of personnel to strategy and scheme perpetrated by der KirkFer and that G.d.G.D.
 
Chuck pegged AJ Derby too. I watched AJ all through high school. Maybe the best high school football player that I have ever seen. Played multiple positions on defense, could run. But he was no quarterback.
 
Nobody is saying Weismann isn't a good kid or doesn't play hard. Why is everyone defending him being a TB at what is supposed to be a championship level team? Hartlieb is 100% correct, Weismann shoud NEVER have received 600 carries.
 
Hawk4Fan said:
CJ's Comp % would been tons better had the Iowa WR not dropped 12+ balls at Pitt, that was the worst job by any WR corps I have ever seen that game.
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And of course we all know that the WR corps have not dropped any passes from any other QB. Ever.
 
Sounds like Chuck is as frustrated as the rest of us and how KF managed to muck up this season. By utilizing his talent wisely,Iowa should have been no worse than 9-3.
 
Clark said:
I know what he meant. Weisman averaged over 4 yards a carry as a halfback in the Big 10. You really think he couldn't do that or better playing non-scholarship football? Kiper has him as the #4 FB in this draft class. He'd have been a kick *** fullback at Iowa too.
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That's not that good in college football. It's like an NFL back having a 2.75 ypc. I know he'd be a kick *** fullback at Iowa and should make an NFL squad as one.

I think Chuck was exagerating to make a point but it's a good point.
 
hwk23 said:
No, Sunshine has a better completion % than JR for passes over 10 yards. JR completes short passes at a higher %. That could be due to more reps with the 1st team.
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What good is that if your passing game is predicated on passes less than 10 yards?
 
Clark said:
So sorry, I thought he had two but he came up 20 yards short (twice) so only one 200 yard game. As if your reply invalidates anything I said.
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You specifically said "Big Ten games." 2 of his 3 highest rushing totals came against Central Michigan and Missouri State. You were wrong, and glaringly so.
 
SpiderRico said:
Chuck Hartlieb was on with Ken Miller last night and, while he did preface that remark by saying MW was a great guy, a tough guy, and a great team player....he still dropped that bomb.

He also talked about Boyle and how he has a big arm and is a great athlete....but he definitely needs to work on his accuracy. Ken said something to the effect of, "You had me at big arm" and Chuck said, "AJ Derby had a great arm too and tons of athleticism, but couldn't hit the broadside of a barn"....and that's basically an exact quote.

He then talked about the QB issue at Iowa this year and agreed with most of the fanbase that he thought a change was warranted at QB given JRs struggles. Ken brought up his stats the last two years and Chuck basically poo-poo'd his stats and said they came against bad competition. Said Stanzi and Tate played a schedule 3 times as tough as JR and that JR wouldn't have anywhere near the stats that Tate and Stanzi had against that competition. He went on to say that with Iowa's struggles this year in finding playmakers at the RB and WR position, that they HAD to get it from the QB and he thought CJ could have brought that.

Pretty insightful and interesting interview.....Chuck certainly didn't pull any punches.
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Is there some kind of a link or replay?
 
Knight78 said:
What good is that if your passing game is predicated on passes less than 10 yards?
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CJ threw deep in spite of the game plan. That's just how he's wired and it happens to be the biggest thing Iowa needed this season. Instead, kfootball stuck with a losing game plan.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
Funny how the rest of us with similar opinions are routinely dismissed as nutcakes by the apologists and Ferentz himself.
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We've been called "the lunatic fringe", "those on the fringe" and "that element" to name a few. Both Rob Howe and Rick Brown spent a good part of the season describing kfootball's dectractors using those terms.
 
BILLBUCKNER said:
Sounds like Chuck is as frustrated as the rest of us and how KF managed to muck up this season. By utilizing his talent wisely,Iowa should have been no worse than 9-3.
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Chuck doesn't approve of KF, and this is his latest attempt to show it publicly.

It's not like it's Weisman's fault that his transfer timing was impeccable.....for Weisman. He didn't take carries from better backs. He helped Iowa when Iowa was extremely desperate.

He wouldn't have played had the players in hand wouldn't have flamed out, quit, transferred, spent too much time on the bong, etc. We all know those names.

And who was going to take the carries other than Weisman? Canzeri and Bullock? It's not like they were hitting home runs, or even doubles.

Really a cheap shot, IMO.
 
Knight78 said:
And of course we all know that the WR corps have not dropped any passes from any other QB. Ever.
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Come on man. You know how bad that many drops skew the percentages when you have so few attempts. They just have to be mentioned as a rebuttal to someone who brings up CJ's completion percentage or the first quarter of the Purdue game to discredit what CJ can do.
 
The thing is that CJ could have grown and "learned the game" with more playing time. And you know darn well that the "learn the game" LTG is the issue holding him back in the world of GD/KF.
 
SteveGarvey said:
That's not that good in college football. It's like an NFL back having a 2.75 ypc. I know he'd be a kick *** fullback at Iowa and should make an NFL squad as one.

I think Chuck was exagerating to make a point but it's a good point.
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Betts 4.4 ypc in his career at iowa. 2nd leading rusher, all time.

Weisman 4.4 ypc in his career at iowa. 6th leading rusher, all time.

in iowa's top ten, 5 of them have yards per carry in the 4-5 range...but that's no good for iowa ball......
 
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