Christine Grant's View of the Meyer Case

STLhawkeye20 said:
A few thoughts. I'm a lawyer (although not a very good one ;)):

(1) I hate sex discrimination cases because most of the time they're BS. If someone was legitimately discriminated against, then fine, bring a claim. But most of the time these claims are filed by people seeking "retribution" after being legitimately fired for incompetence. And as a previous poster astutely pointed out, the current political environment gives these plaintiffs a chance.

(2) These claims suck for business. Because no one can be fired without fear of a looming lawsuit. Businesses (and I guess you can include universities like U Iowa) need some discretion and leeway to fire incompetent or subordinate employees. You can't do that anymore.

(3) Iowa and Barta probably should have settled the case, but sometimes it makes sense to go to trial. Sometimes for no other reason than to deter others from bringing similar claims. Because if you settle with "Person A," then "Person B" who's thinking about bringing a BS claim (like the one brought here) might be more inclined to do so if the other party has a reputation for throwing out early settlement offers. So if Iowa would have settled here, then it would be telling basically every employee "sue us on the basis of sex discrimination and you'll get a nice settlement." So I don't think it was completely idiotic for Barta to take this to trial.

However, I believe that Iowa's legal department or legal team or whoever is TOTALLY ****ing incompetent based on the long term contracts given to Ferentz.
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I agree 100% on points 1 and 2, unfortunately this is the society we now live in. I'm all for equal rights but not to the point where it tips the scales in the other direction.

But on point 3 hindsight is always 20/20, this case with all the evidence and witnesses this seemed like a slam dunk for the University. I didn't think Meyer had a chance to win.
 
Stanzi said:
I didn't think she had a chance to win either, but she won so let's pay her, pay Greasebum, and be done with this.
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Are there any equal pay, pro-gay activists who have said that they think Meyer should have been dismissed because of poor performance on the job? Is there even a conversation in Clark's world about this possibility?
 
hawkeyemark said:
The UI lawyers didn't do a stellar job in this case all the way around. Holding this trial in Des Moines lent itself to Iowa State fans with their own agendas getting on the jury. People like this woman may have lied to get on the jury which matters in the big picture far more than the verdict of the trial. Just a stupid move to let this go to trial in the first place.
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It was a unanimous verdict, wasn't it? I would think that would squelch this kind of discussion. But as some on this thread pointed out, perhaps there is bias when we talk about these things, based upon your school.
 
Christine Grant is a member of the protected class of lesbians so her opinion is worthless.
 
Thawki said:
It was a unanimous verdict, wasn't it? I would think that would squelch this kind of discussion. But as some on this thread pointed out, perhaps there is bias when we talk about these things, based upon your school.
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You make a valid point here in that Iowa stood to lose this case regardless. It took the verdict going down the way it did and then thinking and reading more about it for me to fully realize that the case involved way more than the limited info we got from the media via tweets.

You also make a good point here that we tend to look at this through our lens as a fan. I still maintain that the attorneys did Iowa and Barta no favors ingnoring the request from Meyer's side to settle. Had both sides wanted to settle in good faith I think they could have made the numbers work. In a high profile case of this magnitude to take the case to a jury they needed their ducks in a row which they didn't have with the lack of documentation. Meyer won on the evidence in this case regardless of what you think of the verdict.
 
tksirius said:
So, if she did in fact say she wasn't a fan of college sports or sports teams, etc; it would probably be an easy perjury case if persued.
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The question would be for Iowa if it would be worth it in the long run to pay for more litigation while having the university dragged thru the media about this again. Answer probably NO so not worth fighting.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
Clearly a long distance view. This case had nothing to do with gender equity or sexual preference...except that a shitty employee used it as her "out" knowing the current political environment gave her a decent chance of winning. I doubt very much that this is what Dr Grant wanted or stood for. If only she knew the deeper story.

True "equality" means you get a fair chance at the job no matter who you are....and if you do a shitty job, you get fired, no matter who you are. Equality means an equal chance to succeed AND an equal chance to fail. The second half doesn't seem to apply in today's world.
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Nail on head. Nicely stated.
 
Jane Meyers was the women's AD for 13 years at the UofI. I'm pretty sure she was gay/lesbian for all 13 of those years and it was known to other UofI administrators. They didn't let her go before.

Moral of the story for large corporations, don't hire gay/lesbian or any other minorities. You'll put yourself at risk. It's not worth it. Thanks for sending that message Jane and Greishbam.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Jane Meyers was the women's AD for 13 years at the UofI. I'm pretty sure she was gay/lesbian for all 13 of those years and it was known to other UofI administrators. They didn't let her go before.

Moral of the story for large corporations, don't hire gay/lesbian or any other minorities. You'll put yourself at risk. It's not worth it. Thanks for sending that message Jane and Greishbam.
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And that is the utter irony of the "momentous victory for women everywhere" related to this decision.
 
Hawknigh said:
And that is the utter irony of the "momentous victory for women everywhere" related to this decision.
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Of course the lawsuits can extend to the hiring practices as well, although it is probably tougher to win those.
 
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