Cartwright or Payne next year?

[1977Hawkeye]

Nothing against Payne, but the only reason he ever got the starting PG spot was simply because we had no one else to run it. He had his chance, but now IMO it's Cartwrights spot to lose.

This is the correct answer IMO. Our two PG's last year were Payne and Lick Jr, which is why Payne was playing something like 35+ minutes per game. I think Cartwright is proving that he should be the starting PG next year without question. It'll still be nice to have Cully back next year though and he will still get plenty of minutes I think - not near as many as last year though because he was playing tons of minutes out of necessity.

But in my mind, that's not really such a bad thing if we have alot of depth and we are rotating guys in and out alot, and minutes are being distributed more evenly instead of our guys being asked to be iron men.

 

[ForeverHawk]

I am not too worried about Marble's minutes. The best players are going to play. I think Fran with have the luxury of tinkering with the lineup quite a bit. With more depth, Iowa should be able to get up and down the floor even more. Marble can play 1-3, May 2-3, maybe even 4 at times. Gatens 2-3. Brommer, McCabe and Archie can rotate 4-5 spots. Cully and Cartwright can play the 1-2 spots. I think we will see many different combinations next year and it will a be a good problem to have. Oh, forgot Basabe at 4-5 spot. Add in the two new recruits and there will be a ton of depth. Maybe Fran will redshirt somebody!

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

Cartwright is a nice addition to the team, but we aren't exactly talking Ronnie Lester here. He is also in his third year of college basketball.

I think Payne's accomplishments last year are being short-changed.

He struggled at times, but he was an undersized freshman playing the most demanding position in college basketball, in the most rugged conference in the land, WITHOUT A BACK-UP, on the most horrific team in Iowa basketball history (or close).

He showed poise, tenacity, toughness, leadership, grit, and never quit on his teammates. Most of all, as his teammates cashed it in down the stretch, he went the other way and went down swinging (and swinging hard).

You find out a lot about kids when things don't go their way.

If Payne gets healthy and keeps working, he is going to surprise a few people. There will be good competition at the point guard spot.

I like some four guard line-ups too, with Payne/Cartwright/Marble/May/Basabe.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

I also agree that if Payne is our third PG, we will be in great shape.

 

[tm3308]

Cartwright is a nice addition to the team, but we aren't exactly talking Ronnie Lester here. He is also in his third year of college basketball.

I think Payne's accomplishments last year are being short-changed.

He struggled at times, but he was an undersized freshman playing the most demanding position in college basketball, in the most rugged conference in the land, WITHOUT A BACK-UP, on the most horrific team in Iowa basketball history (or close).

He showed poise, tenacity, toughness, leadership, grit, and never quit on his teammates. Most of all, as his teammates cashed it in down the stretch, he went the other way and went down swinging (and swinging hard).

You find out a lot about kids when things don't go their way.

If Payne gets healthy and keeps working, he is going to surprise a few people. There will be good competition at the point guard spot.

I like some four guard line-ups too, with Payne/Cartwright/Marble/May/Basabe.

If you can point out how many Ronnie Lesters there have been, that would be nice. That's more than holding Cartwright to a high standard. He's the best PG we've had probably since Oliver. I'm a big Cully fan, and I don't think he starts next year. But I don't think he's going to just get minutes to give Cartwright a blow, either. I just think that Cartwright is better. And whether that's because in his 3rd year or not, he's better than Cully at this point. And that's all I really care about. Get the best players on the floor, and Cartwright is that guy.

But Cully is going to be one of the most important players next season, regardless of whether he's in the starting lineup or coming off the bench.

 

[bcl20]

Payne coming back will probably be big because we need another PG but Cartwright is a stud.

 

[CAARHawk]

Payne = Pipp.