Canzeri Injury

Actually, anyone who has ever actually played football knows that when you go half ***, is when you actually get hurt. Go 100% and your less likely to get hurt. Thats actually a proven fact.
 
Hal9000 said:
Look up the statistics on that type of injury happening during a football practice that is "non-contact" and get back to me.

The crux of my argument is the fact that no matter how the injury happens (be it due to a lineman falling on an RB the wrong way or a simple cut) the majority of these injuries happen during FULL SPEED FULL CONTACT practices. Nothing more nothing less.

The above post by SteveGarvey is the most lucid illustration of the idea in action (his first sentence anyways)
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Here are some statistics in a decent (not great) piece.


  • 70-84% of ACL injuries occur from a non-contact mechanism.
  • Although most ACL injuries are non-contact, the most common mechanism among HS football players is player-to-player contact. Not sure if this also holds true in college.
  • College FB players have a 16% chance of tearing an ACL in their 4 years on campus.
  • Artificial surface may increase ACL risk by as much as 88% (even the new stuff)
  • Among NFL players, kickers suffer ACL injuries at the highest rate
I could be wrong, but I didn't think that Iowa did much tackling in practice. Can anyone out there with personal experience attest to that?


You could debate the amount of tackling that should be performed in a practice. I don't think any reasonable person would suggest that players never move at full-speed during practice.


As to your point about the frequency of Iowa ACL injuries, maybe you are mixing-and-matching your memories of RBs lost to ACLs with RBs lost to all other causes.



There was that one really bad year with ACLs (2004, right?). Perhaps there was a systematic problem that year. But apparently they fixed it, because since then who has gone down with an ACL injury in practice? Or any injury? See the following from this post and its thorough research:


  • Jeff Brinson got hurt in '08 and '09 (in practice, I believe). I don't think it was an ACL injury. He later tore his ACL after he transferred away from Iowa. I think it is a good bet that he was injury-prone, whether at Iowa or not.
  • Jewel Hampton got hurt in '09 (ACL). That was in practice (edit: as per Easton, this was a non-contact injury in a players only practice). He later tore another ACL in a game.
  • Adam Robinson got a concussion in '10 during a game.
  • Coker broke his collar-bone in camp in '10.
  • Mikail McCall broke his leg in a game.
So in the last 7 years, 1 RB that was going to see the field, Hampton, suffered a non-contact ACL tear in practice (Canzieri may make 2). One other, Coker, broke a collar bone in practice. That does not seem like an exorbitant injury rate to me.
 
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AIRBHG is the poltergeist of turf monsters.

Maybe we need to make sure they didn’t build Kinnick Stadium on an Indian burial ground.
 
Sad when crap like this happens. Really feel for the kid...works hard, and has added some weight, now likely loses the year. Hope not, but sounds serious.

Unfortunately, we aren't exactly in a great position to be losing RB's or DLinemen for that matter. This one would hurt as I think he can be a homerun type of runner. Something Iowa hasn't had since SG.
 
whether it was non-contact or not is pointless. kf saying no contact with rbs is a sham.

rbs need contact every once in a while to get ready. coker had no contact during the camp last yr and he started terribly and people were calling for him to be benched.

we will run mostly no contact with rbs and some live stuff to keep them understanding the physical side. you become tentative if you dont consistently practice getting hit.

injuries happen we have other rbs to fill the spot and when jordan is healthy he will get the ball...that simple.
 
aeischeid said:
I now feel a lot dumber, after making it through all this........
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Me too. but I have to admit, I was laughing pretty good at some of the sarcasm early in this thread.
Like when "Eveningnewsteam" poster simply replied to the OP "That sounds about right".

LMAO.....
 
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