Campbell Got An Extension Through 2025

I would really like to know what job he's holding out for.. My only guess is he's got one in mind. One doesn't hitch their wagon to ISU like this unless your Dan McCarney. He's far from that age wise, Ambition wise etc. He's plenty young yet but staying at a school like ISU for awhile is dangerous because that shine comes off the rose after awhile. A couple more 7-5- 6-6 seasons and just how special are you really then?
 
Hawkfnntn said:
I would really like to know what job he's holding out for.. My only guess is he's got one in mind. One doesn't hitch their wagon to ISU like this unless your Dan McCarney. He's far from that age wise, Ambition wise etc. He's plenty young yet but staying at a school like ISU for awhile is dangerous because that shine comes off the rose after awhile. A couple more 7-5- 6-6 seasons and just how special are you really then?
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For some guys, what he's got is enough. He's coaching a team in a P5 conference, finishing in the upper half of their conference, going to bowl games, getting paid millions of dollars in a low cost of living state, and is damn near deified by his fanbase. If he finishes anything better than 6-6 every year, he can essentially stay there forever. I don't know his family situation, but that's probably a big factor as well.
 
I like making fun of Campbell, and I think he is overrated. Yet for guys like him, this might become the norm. Take a Brohm, Fleck and Campbell for instance. What is the advantage to jump to a FSU or USC the way the playoffs are currently configured? You are expected at those places to make the playoffs, or you will be fired in 3 years. Well maybe USC can get back there, they don't have a behemoth like Clemson standing in the way like a FSU does. So instead of taking a job where you are 95% likely to fail to live up to fan expectations, why not stay in a small community, be bulletproof, make tons of money, and watch your kids grow up (as much as any coach can).

So while I do think Campbell is overrated, it would not be hard to see him finishing 2nd in that crap conference a couple times over the next decade, then you are down to a one game situation vs Oklahoma. The rest of the years can be filled with 5-7 to 7-5 and he will have a statue in front of Jack Trice someday.
 
He's a 7 or 8 win coach on a team that is improving and bound to get lucky at some point and win 10. Then, he will get serious looks from other big name schools. He is probably hoping for something terrible to happen at Ohio State at the same time, so he can pounce.
 
SpiderRico said:
For some guys, what he's got is enough. He's coaching a team in a P5 conference, finishing in the upper half of their conference, going to bowl games, getting paid millions of dollars in a low cost of living state, and is damn near deified by his fanbase. If he finishes anything better than 6-6 every year, he can essentially stay there forever. I don't know his family situation, but that's probably a big factor as well.
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Yeah and that goes to his goals and aspirations. I mean MN is plenty big enough for a guy like Fleck to stay there. But man Ames Iowa. I'd be hard pressed to think Campbell is the type to be content with 7-5 6-6 with the occasional 8-4 season mixed in being enough. Or look at Brohem at Purdue. That's a low ceiling gig too pretty much. You hit it hot there you gotta jump because if you don't you risk getting fired down the road. Anyone hearing his name bounced around? He goes from being offered the TN gig to crickets in one yr so far...
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Yeah and that goes to his goals and aspirations. I mean MN is plenty big enough for a guy like Fleck to stay there. But man Ames Iowa. I'd be hard pressed to think Campbell is the type to be content with 7-5 6-6 with the occasional 8-4 season mixed in being enough. Or look at Brohem at Purdue. That's a low ceiling gig too pretty much. You hit it hot there you gotta jump because if you don't you risk getting fired down the road. Anyone hearing his name bounced around? He goes from being offered the TN gig to crickets in one yr so far...
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Imo, he would be making a lateral move taking another mid tier power 5 gig. Unless one of those mid tier jobs was his dream job, he is better off staying put.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
I would really like to know what job he's holding out for.. My only guess is he's got one in mind. One doesn't hitch their wagon to ISU like this unless your Dan McCarney. He's far from that age wise, Ambition wise etc. He's plenty young yet but staying at a school like ISU for awhile is dangerous because that shine comes off the rose after awhile. A couple more 7-5- 6-6 seasons and just how special are you really then?
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Why go to a job where you get fired after a single 7 win season when you can get paid millions for 6-6 ad nauseum?

After the complete garbage coaching history they've had in the past there's no way they get rid of the guy unless he goes winless a couple years in a row. It's also Little Brother so they can (and will) always use the excuse that they're just the little guy stacked up against the odds and doing the best they can.

Campbell knows he can stay at ISU as long as Ferentz has at Iowa and lead a completely stress-free life and career with low expectations. No way would I leave.
 
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Fryowa said:
Why go to a job where you get fired after a single 7 win season when you can get paid millions for 6-6?

After the complete garbage coaching history they've had in the past there's no way they get rid of the guy unless he goes winless a couple years in a row. It's also Little Brother so they can (and will) always use the excuse that they're just the little guy stacked up against the odds and doing the best they can.

Campbell knows he can stay at ISU as long as Ferentz has at Iowa and lead a completely stress-free life and career with low expectations. No way would I leave.
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Oh I think ISUs expectations have changed. I don't think 6-6 will cut it for them in a couple years. He's changed them that's part of it all.

I totally agree with your mindset on it all. If your goals/aspirations are to stay some place. make good $ and not bounce around chasing more $ and winning more. Then sure go right on ahead. I could be wrong about him like I was Fleck in that he's that kinda guy. Brohm was one foot out the door last yr so I'm not sold on him sticking around there long term either...
 
Another school's gonna have to pay mucho $$ to draw him away from Ames.

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Hawkfnntn said:
I would really like to know what job he's holding out for.. My only guess is he's got one in mind. One doesn't hitch their wagon to ISU like this unless your Dan McCarney. He's far from that age wise, Ambition wise etc. He's plenty young yet but staying at a school like ISU for awhile is dangerous because that shine comes off the rose after awhile. A couple more 7-5- 6-6 seasons and just how special are you really then?
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Contracts are all relative. He's not hitching himself to IA St. He's just guaranteeing himself $$$. Another school would just buy him out. I do agree that it is a gambling situation and your point about having a couple mediocre seasons could change or delay ascending as a coach.
 
deanvogs said:
I like making fun of Campbell, and I think he is overrated. Yet for guys like him, this might become the norm. Take a Brohm, Fleck and Campbell for instance. What is the advantage to jump to a FSU or USC the way the playoffs are currently configured? You are expected at those places to make the playoffs, or you will be fired in 3 years. Well maybe USC can get back there, they don't have a behemoth like Clemson standing in the way like a FSU does. So instead of taking a job where you are 95% likely to fail to live up to fan expectations, why not stay in a small community, be bulletproof, make tons of money, and watch your kids grow up (as much as any coach can).

So while I do think Campbell is overrated, it would not be hard to see him finishing 2nd in that crap conference a couple times over the next decade, then you are down to a one game situation vs Oklahoma. The rest of the years can be filled with 5-7 to 7-5 and he will have a statue in front of Jack Trice someday.
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Look at Mark Farley at UNI. That dude seems completely content at UNI. Has a good gig.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Contracts are all relative. He's not hitching himself to IA St. He's just guaranteeing himself $$$. Another school would just buy him out. I do agree that it is a gambling situation and your point about having a couple mediocre seasons could change or delay ascending as a coach.
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Scott Frost is the national poster boy for what happens when you leave a safe and secure nest to chase money.
 
Hawknigh said:
He's a 7 or 8 win coach on a team that is improving and bound to get lucky at some point and win 10. Then, he will get serious looks from other big name schools. He is probably hoping for something terrible to happen at Ohio State at the same time, so he can pounce.
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Yea, Ohio St or Notre Dame. I don't see anything changing at Ohio St. for the foreseeable future, though. I think Day is the real deal.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Oh I think ISUs expectations have changed. I don't think 6-6 will cut it for them in a couple years. He's changed them that's part of it all.

I totally agree with your mindset on it all. If your goals/aspirations are to stay some place. make good $ and not bounce around chasing more $ and winning more. Then sure go right on ahead. I could be wrong about him like I was Fleck in that he's that kinda guy. Brohm was one foot out the door last yr so I'm not sold on him sticking around there long term either...
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Brohm hurt his chances of getting a better gig really, reeeeeally bad this year. If money at a bigger school was his goal he should have done it last year. If he doesn't start shitting Tiffany cuff links at Purdue in the next year or two his ship will have sailed. I think you can kind of see that frustration on his face and in interviews compared to a guy like Fat Pitzgerald, who can have a 1-8 conference season and still laugh about it and joke around like it ain't no thing. They worship his ass in Chicago and he knows he's not going anywhere because he has too good of a gig.
 
trj said:
Keep an eye on ND. I could see Brian Kelly taking a NFL job.
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I think if something like ND came open, Campbell would want that badly. The problem is he doesn't have an agent, he can't make the back channel connections he would need to in order to show his interest, and it would/could become a mess. I bet Pollard is in his ear saying, he Matt you don't need yourself an agent, I'll give you whatever you want. All the while putting poison pills and buyouts into the contract and knowing damn well without an agent Campbell has less of a shot at the a high target job for him. Pollard is a complete weasel and would totally to this. Too bad Campbell isn't Kirk smart and protect himself.
 
The scuttlebutt at Notre Dame is that the powers that be feel that the program has reached its ceiling under Kelly and the natives are getting restless. With Urban Meyer available, don't be surprised if N.D. moves on from Kelly if Meyer expresses an interest. By all accounts, Meyer has always been very interested in the N.D. job, and at this point it may be the only job he would consider.
 
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