Bye bye water tower

Man, Iowa City would be so much better if the Hospital was where Finkbine is and Finkbine was out past 218. You just never know how much something is gonna grow.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Man, Iowa City would be so much better if the Hospital was where Finkbine is and Finkbine was out past 218. You just never know how much something is gonna grow.
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When I worked at Kinnick as a student 30 years ago, I was told that the Football Stadium was going to move to where Finkbine was and that the hospital would take over the Kinnick land. Guess no one really knows how to urban plan that part of University owned land.
 
Hawkboys said:
When I worked at Kinnick as a student 30 years ago, I was told that the Football Stadium was going to move to where Finkbine was and that the hospital would take over the Kinnick land. Guess no one really knows how to urban plan that part of University owned land.
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It's a shame because they could have just put hospital expansions out at Finkbine with the eventual plan of the whole thing being moved out that way over a 40 or 50-year period as new capex projects were laid down. You can't move a stadium in pieces. You have to build a new one and Kinnick is on sacred ground. But it's obvious that the hospital makes ungodly amounts of money for the school and is gonna have the ultimate say in what happens. I think they're gonna have to move Kinnick eventually, but maybe not in our lifetimes.
 
Hawkboys said:
When I worked at Kinnick as a student 30 years ago, I was told that the Football Stadium was going to move to where Finkbine was and that the hospital would take over the Kinnick land. Guess no one really knows how to urban plan that part of University owned land.
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okeefe4prez said:
It's a shame because they could have just put hospital expansions out at Finkbine with the eventual plan of the whole thing being moved out that way over a 40 or 50-year period as new capex projects were laid down. You can't move a stadium in pieces. You have to build a new one and Kinnick is on sacred ground. But it's obvious that the hospital makes ungodly amounts of money for the school and is gonna have the ultimate say in what happens. I think they're gonna have to move Kinnick eventually, but maybe not in our lifetimes.
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Wouldn't even have to mess with Finkbine. Put the hospital where the soccer/tennis/cross country/rec fields are.
 
Hawkboys said:
When I worked at Kinnick as a student 30 years ago, I was told that the Football Stadium was going to move to where Finkbine was and that the hospital would take over the Kinnick land. Guess no one really knows how to urban plan that part of University owned land.
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I remember hearing stuff like that too. I think over time that has changed. The hospital/medical complex has shown they can have satellite facilities spread around town and they don't have to all be in one location. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Kinnick eventually go by the wayside.
 
Prior to the rehab/updating of the south endzone at Kinnick a couple decades ago there were serious conversations and I think some preliminary planning toward building a new football stadium somewhere near the intersection of I-80 and I-380. The cost was going to be super-high, and the Powers That Be decided to do a gradual redo of Kinnick instead.
 
okeefe4prez said:
It's a shame because they could have just put hospital expansions out at Finkbine with the eventual plan of the whole thing being moved out that way over a 40 or 50-year period as new capex projects were laid down. You can't move a stadium in pieces. You have to build a new one and Kinnick is on sacred ground. But it's obvious that the hospital makes ungodly amounts of money for the school and is gonna have the ultimate say in what happens. I think they're gonna have to move Kinnick eventually, but maybe not in our lifetimes.
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It better be past our lifetimes...
 
A new stadium would be north of a billion dollars. Northwestern is building a miniature stadium for football and just that was $800 million.

Ain't gonna happen, fellas.
 
Fryowa said:
A new stadium would be north of a billion dollars. Northwestern is building a miniature stadium for football and just that was $800 million.

Ain't gonna happen, fellas.
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Northwestern's pricing probably includes many markups for the mob and union kickbacks but even leaving that aside it would be a pricy endeavor in Iowa as well.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Northwestern's pricing probably includes many markups for the mob and union kickbacks but even leaving that aside it would be a pricy endeavor in Iowa as well.
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Yeah it's just insurmountable cost-wise now.

I just looked on Wikipedia where there's a really comprehensive list of college stadiums, and the last one built holding 70,000 or more fans was in the 1950s (Penn State). Almost all of them were in the 19 teens or twenties. Any college stadiums of any size built in the last 30-40 years are primarily NFL stadiums primarily with sharing agreements.

There's a zero percent chance that Iowa builds a new football stadium. They've proven they can sell almost a half million tickets per year which is roughly 70,000 a game, even when thigs aren't going well. A venue that size would be well over a billion dollars when all the checks are cut.
 
Hawkboys said:
When I worked at Kinnick as a student 30 years ago, I was told that the Football Stadium was going to move to where Finkbine was and that the hospital would take over the Kinnick land. Guess no one really knows how to urban plan that part of University owned land.
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I think that would have been a stupid plan even 30 yrs ago. Moving just to Finkbine would have been short lived benefit due to the expansion speed and not worth the $$ to build. Now, going a bit more west might have made sense.
 
okeefe4prez said:
It's a shame because they could have just put hospital expansions out at Finkbine with the eventual plan of the whole thing being moved out that way over a 40 or 50-year period as new capex projects were laid down. You can't move a stadium in pieces. You have to build a new one and Kinnick is on sacred ground. But it's obvious that the hospital makes ungodly amounts of money for the school and is gonna have the ultimate say in what happens. I think they're gonna have to move Kinnick eventually, but maybe not in our lifetimes.
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Dumb discussion. Kinnick is a historic football venue and will be standing long after we are in the ground.. What's next, tear down Wrigley????
 
okeefe4prez said:
Northwestern's pricing probably includes many markups for the mob and union kickbacks but even leaving that aside it would be a pricy endeavor in Iowa as well.
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Exactly. First of all you're going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there's the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I'm sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that'll cost ya.

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HaydenHawk56 said:
Exactly. First of all you're going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there's the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I'm sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that'll cost ya.

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