Buying a new vehicle

BigD

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I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on a lot of different new cars and trucks. I have visited the CarEdge YouTube videos as they discuss what's going on in the car markets. In this video they (a father and his son) talk about how to negotiate buying an automobile. The father once owned a dealership and is onto the games they like to play.

They do a role play towards the end of their video that teach people how to negotiate for the best deal without having to go into the dealership until the price of the vehicle is already decided. I thought it was pretty interesting and informative. I have already used these types of methods myself which has saved me significant amounts of money and time.

 


I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on a lot of different new cars and trucks. I have visited the CarEdge YouTube videos as they discuss what's going on in the car markets. In this video they (a father and his son) talk about how to negotiate buying an automobile. The father once owned a dealership and is onto the games they like to play.

They do a role play towards the end of their video that teach people how to negotiate for the best deal without having to go into the dealership until the price of the vehicle is already decided. I thought it was pretty interesting and informative. I have already used these types of methods myself which has saved me significant amounts of money and time.

Consumer Reports has excellent suggestions for buyers.
 


Consumer Reports has excellent suggestions for buyers.
I really enjoy the consumer reports YouTube videos. I am driving a 2011 Honda CRV that we bought new when we lived in Georgia. I have always done or have done all the required maintenance on it. It has about 110K miles on it.

One day I was watching consumer reports it was about cars that can be expected to go 200K to 300K miles if they were maintained properly. Got to the number one car and I was surprised it was Honda CRV's between the years of 2007 to 2012. We also always kept it garaged and having bought and drove it in the State of Georgia for more than half of those fifteen years also helped to keep the rust off of the car.

People here in Utah have commented on how clean the car looks. So, I have decided it will be our run around car or if we are going to an event where people are just parking next to each other where there are no lines to make parking spots. rather than taking the newer SUV's we have.
 


Here is a sample of the videos I have watched. Interesting that I bought my wife a new 2023 Mazda CX-5 and she loves it. Also, interesting that I am considering every vehicle discussed in this YouTube. All of them are high demand cars as far as consumers are concerned. The Toyota's mentioned require a deposit and then you are put on a waiting list.

My only concern with the 2026 Honda CRV's is there is no spare tire provided just a small tire repair kit. WTF??? Have these guys never driven through, Western Nebraska, Wyoming, North or South Dakota??? Those are the lands of desolation. Can you imagine driving your CRV and getting a flat in a snow storm in any of those states? No spare tire......... seriously????? That's insane!!!

 
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My grand daughter has a 2025 hybrid CRV. Great car for her. She loves it!
Have you drove it. Reports seem to indicate in most hybrid the vehicles have quicker acceleration which is good for passing. Just wondered if that was true?
 




I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on a lot of different new cars and trucks. I have visited the CarEdge YouTube videos as they discuss what's going on in the car markets. In this video they (a father and his son) talk about how to negotiate buying an automobile. The father once owned a dealership and is onto the games they like to play.

They do a role play towards the end of their video that teach people how to negotiate for the best deal without having to go into the dealership until the price of the vehicle is already decided. I thought it was pretty interesting and informative. I have already used these types of methods myself which has saved me significant amounts of money and time.

I never understood how people can't negotiate, especially after the advent of the internet. All you have to do is find the best market price of the car in your area and the true value of anything you are trading in. It's pretty simple math. Don't get sucked into the weeds from the salesman/finance guy as they will dirty it up to confuse you. If you take the evidence in, they can't really battle it if the buyer sticks to their guns.
 


I never understood how people can't negotiate, especially after the advent of the internet. All you have to do is find the best market price of the car in your area and the true value of anything you are trading in. It's pretty simple math. Don't get sucked into the weeds from the salesman/finance guy as they will dirty it up to confuse you. If you take the evidence in, they can't really battle it if the buyer sticks to their guns.
When I go into a dealership I'm totally upfront with the salesperson that I'm not going to buy any tacked-on stuff like paint pro, warranties, what have you. In the car sales world those are the only things they make money on and I don't want to sit down in their office and start arguing about that shit after I just spent 3 hours looking at vehicles and deciding. They hate it because that's 90% of their commission but eff 'em. They didn't take that job at gunpoint, find a different job or a different sucker if you're mad about it, and I can got to any dealer down the street anyways. I'm upfront about it from the word go and I tell them if they're gonna press me on that stuff to save us both time and I'll move on.

Was sitting at a pub table waiting for a salesman once when I was buying a Sorento in Sioux Falls and one of their staff had left a folder of papers out (that they shouldn't have). It listed out how much their commissions were on all that add-on bs...I remember the paint pro being $900 some dollars and the salesman got like $300 of it.

Nope.
 


When I go into a dealership I'm totally upfront with the salesperson that I'm not going to buy any tacked-on stuff like paint pro, warranties, what have you. In the car sales world those are the only things they make money on and I don't want to sit down in their office and start arguing about that shit after I just spent 3 hours looking at vehicles and deciding. They hate it because that's 90% of their commission but eff 'em. They didn't take that job at gunpoint, find a different job or a different sucker if you're mad about it, and I can got to any dealer down the street anyways. I'm upfront about it from the word go and I tell them if they're gonna press me on that stuff to save us both time and I'll move on.

Was sitting at a pub table waiting for a salesman once when I was buying a Sorento in Sioux Falls and one of their staff had left a folder of papers out (that they shouldn't have). It listed out how much their commissions were on all that add-on bs...I remember the paint pro being $900 some dollars and the salesman got like $300 of it.

Nope.
I first check out the difference between MSRP and the invoice. Then I make an offer. Once that is settled, I announce that I have a trade in. Then we talk. That done, I do what Fry does. I look at the number and say that when I write the check, that will be the amount final. I never pay msrp. I have paid $300-$500 over invoice for many years. I drive Honda Pilot Touring. I trade every three years when I hit just under 100,000 miles. My trade in number is very high. Used Pilot’s draw buyers galore. Several times, my trade in has sold before I pick up my new vehicle.

Just to be clear, I am well aware that buying new every 3 years is not financially sound.
But that is what I have done for decades. There you go!
 


When I go into a dealership I'm totally upfront with the salesperson that I'm not going to buy any tacked-on stuff like paint pro, warranties, what have you. In the car sales world those are the only things they make money on and I don't want to sit down in their office and start arguing about that shit after I just spent 3 hours looking at vehicles and deciding. They hate it because that's 90% of their commission but eff 'em. They didn't take that job at gunpoint, find a different job or a different sucker if you're mad about it, and I can got to any dealer down the street anyways. I'm upfront about it from the word go and I tell them if they're gonna press me on that stuff to save us both time and I'll move on.

Was sitting at a pub table waiting for a salesman once when I was buying a Sorento in Sioux Falls and one of their staff had left a folder of papers out (that they shouldn't have). It listed out how much their commissions were on all that add-on bs...I remember the paint pro being $900 some dollars and the salesman got like $300 of it.

Nope.

Filthy Bastards
 




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