Seth53
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Well, read between the lines.
Despite "adding" 4-1 and a BTT win, I don't see that adding all that much to our current resume. IMHO, of course.
BTN's Dave Revsine was just on College Sports on SiriusXM
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Well, read between the lines.
Despite "adding" 4-1 and a BTT win, I don't see that adding all that much to our current resume. IMHO, of course.
LawVHawk
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I still don't think this is enough; have to beat Indy and go deep into the BTT. Iowa entered the season deep in the woods trying to look in (heck, even just trying to find the window), as it has since Alford left. It got a lot closer this year and if the progress continues will dance next year. But Iowa just does not have enough of a reputation yet to make it to the favored side of any bubble. I gotta agree with Revsine.
1977Hawkeye
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And I think the part in bold is what most of us are saying Iowa has to do: 4-1 the rest of the way (which means no stumbles, and I don't count Indiana as a "stumble") and not lose in the BTT first round. So not sure that we really disagree here.
Yes, right NOW - Iowa is out. I'm not seeing anybody here who is disagreeing with that. But they can play their way in the next 6-7 games.
As for the close losses... Well, I would hope the committee does consider to some degree that our leading scorer was out for one of those, and not healthy for two more of them. No, you can't count them as wins. But close losses, some of them on the road, to good teams without your leading scorer, I hope would at least say "Hey, this team can compete".
I like Iowa as IN the tournament if they go 10-8 and win one in the BTT.
In that case, Iowa's RPI goes up, right? I think they would be at least in the 60's, maybe 50's? Don't know. But someone posted the other day that several teams in the 60's have gotten in the past several years. So RPI is not the only factor.
atomicblue224
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If we finish 11-7 winning our last 8 games including on the road against the number 1 team in the nation, you still think we need to go on a deep run in the tourney? I sure hope you're not on the selection committee.
LawVHawk
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Not saying I agree with it. But Iowa right now just does not have the bones to slip in without beating Indy and doing well in the BTT. That's just reality.
If Iowa beat indiana on the road, that alone would be more "bones" then any other bubble team.
WindsorHawk
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Some of those close losses were without Marble...wasn't right even when he played. Looking back it may have been best to sit him 3 or 4 games. We may have actually picked up a win in 1 of those AND the committee does take injuries into consideration...assuming we can trust what they tell the public. There's nothing we can do about it now except win as many as we can.
WindsorHawk
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I'm standing by my new position on this whole topic. I believe Iowa will finish 10-8 and win at least 2 in the BTT...so I'm not going to be concerned until 1 of these 2 things doesn't happen.
sportstalent
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There still is the factor of playing in the best conference. People can argue with me all you want, but 10 teams out of the Big East a few years ago never happens if the committee doesn't feel the Big East was that much better than every other league.
Also the Pac-12, SEC, Big 12 are not helping themselves out either with their better teams, or "locks" at this point continuing to lose games they shouldn't. Also their best teams going on the road and losing games like Florida at Mizzou doesn't help either. Arizona dropping games shows either they aren't that good, or the Pac-12 is better, I rest on the former and not the latter. Big 12 with KU dropping the games they have and being tied with Baylor at one point of all teams shows either that conference is bad or better than advertised, I lean toward not as good, just watch those teams play.
ACC/Big East and the MWC conference are showing they are better leagues than I initially thought, but nowhere near the Big Ten.
Also the Pac-12, SEC, Big 12 are not helping themselves out either with their better teams, or "locks" at this point continuing to lose games they shouldn't. Also their best teams going on the road and losing games like Florida at Mizzou doesn't help either. Arizona dropping games shows either they aren't that good, or the Pac-12 is better, I rest on the former and not the latter. Big 12 with KU dropping the games they have and being tied with Baylor at one point of all teams shows either that conference is bad or better than advertised, I lean toward not as good, just watch those teams play.
ACC/Big East and the MWC conference are showing they are better leagues than I initially thought, but nowhere near the Big Ten.
busabus114
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Glad to see this topic finally being discussed
BlacknGold19
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Indiana will have to play one of their worst games of the year for us to beat them on their home floor..they are just too good
I was quoting another poster who said it had to happen for us to get in and it still might not be enough. I wasn't saying I think it could happen.
For some reason, hearing predictions at this stage, and the reasoning (or lack thereof) behind them reminds me of this: NIT-ology ...not sure why.
"3/11/12 9:14 PM28/32. blah. should have had in: iowa, la salle, cleveland st., illinois st. should have had out: pittsburgh, george mason, weber st., illinois"
"3/11/12 9:14 PM28/32. blah. should have had in: iowa, la salle, cleveland st., illinois st. should have had out: pittsburgh, george mason, weber st., illinois"
BlacknGold19
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Very true and very unlikely. However, If we win our next 2 we will be 8-7 in the best conference in basketball and riding a 5 game win streak. We will be on everyone's bubble and will have a HUGE opportunity and I can guarantee the Hoosiers will get our best punch..there's definitely a reason to have hope
1hawkeye1
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I endorse this.
